Shatner's own words about Kirk's death in Generations

[JonnyQuest037]

The whole movie is a mess and just shows the TNG writer'scontempt for the TOS era characters (that was first shown in the TNG episode: "Relics").

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that writers had "contempt" for TOS. Ron Moore said that when he first said the words "Kirk dies" when they were breaking the story, he had to sit down and said, "Wow, I've just killed my childhood hero."

But certainly GEN was not a very successful story. For one thing, it's never especially clear what the Nexus can and can't do, other than what the plot needs it to do at that particular moment. That's a huge weakness in the story.

 

[BigDaveX]

What's weird though is that Moore was one of the writing team on Yesterday's Enterprise, which was written specifically because the writers thought that the idea of giving a character - in this case, Yar - a meaningless death was a terrible idea, and that important characters should die in a grand, heroic sacrifice. And yet he (and Braga) initially came up with a horribly anticlimatic death for Kirk, and then another one that wasn't a whole lot better.

 

[TrickyDickie]

Yesterday's Enterprise, which was written specifically because the writers thought that the idea of giving a character - in this case, Yar - a meaningless death was a terrible idea, and that important characters should die in a grand, heroic sacrifice.

It's a myth that Yesterday's Enterprise was written specifically to fix Yar's death in the earlier Skin of Evil. Here is the detailed story behind the production of YE:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesterday's_Enterprise

 

[johnnybear]

How do we know that Kirk is really dead? How do we know that Picard escaped from the Nexus? The follow on films might all have been set inside the Nexus for Picard's view of the life he had always wanted! And if Kirk did die on Veridian III then how do we know his echo isn't still inside the energy ribbon? Guinan appeared inside Picard's life and she was in two places at the same time!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

Very interesting, Tricky, very interesting indeed!
JB

 

[Haggis and tatties]

In the books Kirk is brought back to life by borg tech.

 

[JKM]

I'm wondering why an actor wrote such a thing. Do they always do this?
I'm thinking Shatner did this because the writing was so bad. He had to justify the end of a legend.
Did Nimoy write such a memo about Spock's death scene.

Yes, except Nimoy's was in his book where he talked about it.
I hate GEN for the fact of how Kirk was treated. It's one of the only TNG movies I watched because it had Kirk in it, but I hated it. The whole thing was a mess and such a waste by paramount. They should've had Kirk live and then if they wanted, they could've had a spin off movie of him having to deal with all that. A movie like that would've probably done better than most of TNG movies.