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[KennyB]

Whoopi Goldberg for Cpt April. She fits More with STD casting and ethos.

I don't even know what that means.........I hope.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Whoopi Goldberg for Cpt April. She fits More with STD casting and ethos.

Care to elaborate on what you mean by this? Is it a complaint about black lead actresses? Continuity changes? All of the above?

 

[Attentiveluke]

I mean STD Sarek looks nothing like TOS Sarek, STD Mudd looks nothing like TOS Mudd, STD Klingons look nothing like TOS Klingons, STD technology looks nothing like TOS technology etc. The makers of discovery have no interest in having things/people look like they are meant to

Black actresses are not the problem. Whoopi is good as Guinan. Although miss Martin Green is awful as Burnham.

 

[KennyB]

I mean STD Sarek looks nothing like TOS Sarek, STD Mudd looks nothing like TOS Mudd, STD Klingons look nothing like TOS Klingons, STD technology looks nothing like TOS technology etc. The makers of discovery have no interest in having things/people look like they are meant to

Black actresses are not the problem. Whoopi is good as Guinan. Although miss Martin Green is awful as Burnham.

I guess you missed the whole "visual reboot" thing from the past year or so. Also Green is doing amazing in my opinion. Her character is a human who was raised on Vulcan in the Vulcan ways..........once again maybe you missed Sarek telling her to behave in Episode 1 or Georgiou saying "wow you really HAVE been away from humans for too long......." Every episode she has slowly started to progress in her way that she interacts with her shipmates. First with prodding from Tilly, and now on her own. Did you notice that when they were jogging at the beginning of Lethe and Tilly responds to her mentoring she smiles a couple of times? But the end of the episode she is starting to really embrace her human emotions and reintroduces herself to Ash. I believe Green is giving exactly what she is being directed to give and the subtle little touches are nice........

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I mean STD Sarek looks nothing like TOS Sarek, STD Mudd looks nothing like TOS Mudd...

Short of necromancing the original dead actors, who wouldn't look the right age for the time period anyway, or doing some horrible and expensive uncanny valley CGI doppelgänger which totally takes you out of the narrative, I'm not sure what else you'd like them to do? Sarek shares roughly the same physical characteristics and wears Vulcan robes, so I'm not sure what your complaint is with him. Mudd is thinner and wears more dark leather and has more facial hair, but since this is ten years before we saw him in TOS, I don't know why it would be unreasonable for him to wear different clothes or not have gained more weight yet or to have a beard.

 

[Attentiveluke]

Perhaps I am mixing up my dislike of the character with Greens ability to portray her. Green played a similar joyless character on walking dead but that character fitted that show. Burnham does have a touch of t’pol and seven of nine about her but they were secondary characters as part of a crew where as we have to look at Burnham for most of the episode and I can’t like her.

 

[KennyB]

Perhaps I am mixing up my dislike of the character with Greens ability to portray her. Green played a similar joyless character on walking dead but that character fitted that show. Burnham does have a touch of t’pol and seven of nine about her but they were secondary characters as part of a crew where as we have to look at Burnham for most of the episode and I can’t like her.

She's also played a bubbly practical joker girlfriend on New Girl............The girl can act. She just has portrayed stoic characters. I believe she will get looser and more amicable as the season progresses. I don't think the writer really want you to like her yet.

 

[Longinus]

Short of necromancing the original dead actors, who wouldn't look the right age for the time period anyway, or doing some horrible and expensive uncanny valley CGI doppelgänger which totally takes you out of the narrative, I'm not sure what else you'd like them to do?

Probably not to use those characters at all. Whilst I personally have no huge problem with these particular recasts, I can certainly understand how someone could.

 

[Danlav05]

Oh look another 'Bring Back Shat' thread for me to write in! :P

I don't think he should play April, my ideal would be Paul McGann but he's a regular in a British medical soap now.

If Shat were to appear in Discovery, it would have to be as Tiberius Kirk, Jim's grandaddy, or time travelling Mirror Kirk. We don't know his (canon) fate.

Would they be able to get Chris Pine to guest in a TV show as Lt Kirk? He's a pretty big movie star now.

 

[Attentiveluke]

Short of necromancing the original dead actors, who wouldn't look the right age for the time period anyway, or doing some horrible and expensive uncanny valley CGI doppelgänger which totally takes you out of the narrative, I'm not sure what else you'd like them to do? Sarek shares roughly the same physical characteristics and wears Vulcan robes, so I'm not sure what your complaint is with him. Mudd is thinner and wears more dark leather and has more facial hair, but since this is ten years before we saw him in TOS, I don't know why it would be unreasonable for him to wear different clothes or not have gained more weight yet or to have a beard.

Maybe they can’t do much about the actors but they can do something about the Klingons and the technology. Hopefully Ash is an augmented Klingon and we will start seeing a lot of them.

 

[Danlav05]

I've blogged about this:

https://dannylavery9.wordpress.com/2017/10/27/the-many-ways-to-bring-back-kirk-prime/

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

I guess you missed the whole "visual reboot" thing from the past year or so.

The Vulcans missed the same memo as well.

 

[Ithekro]

Cadet Kirk (or whatever his rank is) should be roughly the same class as Cadet Tilly, or perhaps a year ahead of her. This places him either at the Academy, on his cadet cruise (like Tilly is) just on either USS Republic, or on USS Farragut (also possibly his first post-graduation assignment), depending on timing and such.

However, there was the mention Kirk being involved in the "Vulcanian Expedition", whatever that is. I wonder if it is possible for a new Starfleet cadet to gain admittance into the Vulcan Expeditionary Group right out of Starfleet Academy? Kirk on a Vulcan ship for four months to a year would be something. Even if it was basically a cultural exchange program

 

[Tim Thomason]

Future cast ideas:
William Shatner as Chef Tiberius Kirk
Nichelle Nichols as Elder M'Umbha
George Takei as Captain Walter Sulu of the USS Excelsior (NCC-1032)
Walter Koenig as novelist Andrei Chekov, foremost writer of neo-Soviet literature
Patrick Stewart as Frenchman Georges Picard, annoyed when Klingons invade his vineyards
Jonathan Frakes as Tad Riker
LeVar Burton as Dr. Michael La Forge, Lorca's eye doctor
Denise Crosby as colonist Macha Yar, founding the perfect New Utopia colony in the Turkana system
Michael Dorn as General Mogh, son of Worf, son of Mogh
Gates McFadden as Lunar President Cheryl Howard
Marina Sirtis as Queen Rixx, ruler of Betazed
Brent Spiner as Dr. Malik Soong, creator of Airiam's cybernetics
Wil Wheaton as pirate Captain Eugene "One-Eye" Crusher, a notorious buccaneer of the Seven Sectors
Avery Brooks as former Crewman Jacob Sisko, PTSD sufferer of the Sheliak Wars
Rene Auberjonois as Kantare Elder Ezral, currently suing the Federation to return his holodeck technology
Nicole de Boer as Ilana Tigan, a member of an unknown race
Alexander Siddig as Singh el Bashir, an aide to Malik Soong
Terry Farrell as Emony Dax, a former love interest of Lorca, also of an unknown race
Cirroc Lofton as Jimmy Sisko, a two-bit hustler on the streets of Grazer
Colm Meaney as UFP President Edward O'Brien
Armin Shimerman as a Betazoid gift box kept in Lorca's menagerie
Nana Visitor as Cardassian Supreme Prefect Neria Ghemor
Kate Mulgrew as Shannon Janeway, leader of the new Terra Prime movement
Robert Beltran as Robert Beltran, an actor from the 21st century put into cryo-sleep
Roxann Dawson as Miral, spymaster of the House of Mokai
Jennifer Lien will not appear due to legal issues
Robert Duncan MacNeill as the director of the episode accidentally caught on camera
Ethan Phillips as Neelix, a claimed time traveller and maitre d' of Tilly's favorite restaurant
Robert Picardo as Dr. Herman Zimmerman, the guy who stole Kantare technology
Tim Russ as Lt. Sunak, son of Terral, a Federation spy sent to investigate the Logic Extremists
Jeri Ryan as Captain Maria Hansen of the USS Republic, a cheerful outgoing captain who gets on Lorca's nerves
Garrett Wang as Ensign Gary S.L. Kim, a former Captain demoted to Ensign due to criminal activity
Scott Bakula as SCIS investigator Beckett Archer, son of a former UFP President
John Billingsley, Jolene Blalock, Dominic Keating, and Anthony Montgomery as their Enterprise characters, in old age makeup, killed during a reunion held on Archer IV
Linda Park as Empress Hoshi Sato IV of the mirror universe
Connor Trinneer as Captain Christopher Pike