Shatner: "I hope that movie bombs"
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Oh really? When did he do that? Give links.
No, Spiner's never expressed any hatred for the fans. He does and always has given just about every interview in a single ironic, mocking tone - with a sense of humor considerably drier and harder for some folks to get than even Shatner's alleged to have.
He has said more than once that he doesn't think he could go on playing the character much longer.
He has said more than once that he doesn't think he could go on playing the character much longer.
I don't blame Shatner for wanting the movie to bomb, they're ruining the franchise with crappy shows and crappy movies, Trek is close to his heart and sometimes you want something to be bad so the people in charge try harder if they try a next time.
Sometimes something you love is better off dead than just crappy
Also I don't get why they don't just film his books, they would be enourmus successes
Sometimes something you love is better off dead than just crappy
Also I don't get why they don't just film his books, they would be enourmus successes
As I said before I really think he's kidding.
His books aren't that good.
Sharr
And I can only assume that if Spiner hated Trek and its fans so much, he would never have agreed to play Arik Soong on ENT.
Exactly, the books aren't for the casual viewer but the "Trek fans". There's alot of "catch up" that would need to be forced into the books to make them filmable and for a general audience.
Sharr
What real catch up would be needed? Just have one of those introduction text that DS9 and the VOY pilot had that said like (and sorry if I get the years wrong here)
"In 2283 Captain James Kirk was presumed dead, only to be brought back in 2369 by Captain Picard to stop the mad scientist Soran destroy a solar system. Kirk died there on that planet. Following the brutal Dominion war the Alpha quadrant of space lays in shambles. As Captain Picard and his crew lost a dear friend with Data, Ambassador Spock is also visiting a dear friend."
-cue to Spock standing by Kirks grave as Kirks body gets beamed away by a Borg cube.
"In 2283 Captain James Kirk was presumed dead, only to be brought back in 2369 by Captain Picard to stop the mad scientist Soran destroy a solar system. Kirk died there on that planet. Following the brutal Dominion war the Alpha quadrant of space lays in shambles. As Captain Picard and his crew lost a dear friend with Data, Ambassador Spock is also visiting a dear friend."
-cue to Spock standing by Kirks grave as Kirks body gets beamed away by a Borg cube.
No they wouldn't. The books written on his behalf are pretty lame unless one is either a Trekkie or a big Shatner fan - better if one is the latter.
I'm not sure that I've ever seen Spiner answer a question straight.
One of my favorites was when asked to describe his plans for an early-season TNG hiatus (to a fan publication, I think) he indicated that he was going to tour a one-man show "as Lorne Greene reading from the works of Graham Greene, with incidental music by Verde."
His idea of how Shatner should be worked into the first TNG movie was that young female officers should be disappearing off the Enterprise D, and it would be discovered that Kirk was secretly living on one of the lower decks - as a sort of "Phantom of The Opera" character. "He just can't let go of the Enterprise."
One of my favorites was when asked to describe his plans for an early-season TNG hiatus (to a fan publication, I think) he indicated that he was going to tour a one-man show "as Lorne Greene reading from the works of Graham Greene, with incidental music by Verde."
His idea of how Shatner should be worked into the first TNG movie was that young female officers should be disappearing off the Enterprise D, and it would be discovered that Kirk was secretly living on one of the lower decks - as a sort of "Phantom of The Opera" character. "He just can't let go of the Enterprise."
That's funny actually. I guess actually my point was is that there seems to be several types of ex-Trek actors. Those that don't give a shit, those that suck on the Trek nipple still today, those that care, those that make fun of the fans, and those like Shatner who will look at a fan - give them the fuck you finger and hold out their hands for $20 more?
Which is worse - Garrett Wang that seems to have made a career being Harry Kim and would show up at a tea dance with fans in attendance ready to sign an autograph or Shatner that says fuck you but still sucks the Trekkie nipple as well.
They both do it - one IMHO is more honest than the another and his name is Bill not Garrett.
And then there is those like Stewart or Mulgrew that seem to want to forget they were ever associated with the show at all.
Reminds me of that Far Side cartoon.
What we say to the general public who goes to see Star Trek XI:
What they hear:
You've identified the exact problem with all exposition in drama.I think people who really like Trek and are used to it are a little more amenable to this kind of thing - some of us have been conditioned to that "Captain's Log" shorthand since way back when it was sometimes the only "special effect" they could afford to move the story along. "Visually-assisted radio," as someone once described it.
Field tested for accuracy! :thumbsup:
I just had a non-Trek fan coworker of mine read this post over my shoulder....and before she even got to part 2, she exclaimed "I have no idea what any of this means except for 'Captain Kirk'!"
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