No more so than your unrequited love for the man, it would seem.
Shatner: "I hope that movie bombs"
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No more so than your unrequited love for the man, it would seem.
If we all behaved like trucks, the world would be a better place.
I don't know for sure if he hopes the movie bombs, if he is secretly trying to get the movie some ink, if he is always bitter, always happy or has different moods in different situations like the rest of us mere mortals, but I do know that his reported comments have kicked off a controversy that I find to be fairly entertaining.
That's why I dig the Shat...so much more entertaining than the sort of smarmy bland pap that a lot of folks put out when asked the same inane question for the umpteenth time.
That's why I dig the Shat...so much more entertaining than the sort of smarmy bland pap that a lot of folks put out when asked the same inane question for the umpteenth time.
It was the dark of the moon on the 6th of June,
And a Kenworth pullin' logs,
Cab-over Pete with a reefer on
And a Jimmy haulin' hogs,
We was headin' for bear on I 1-0
'Bout a mile out of Shakeytown,
I said 'Pigpen, this here's rubberduck
And I'm about to put the hammer on down.'
This was a joke.
Honestly, does anyone really think he was serious?
Yeah, he's a big fan of money, and yeah - he usually thinks of himself and often makes fun of others, but he has a very,
very dry sense of wit. Whether you find it funny or not.
A one line soundbite. The kind of thing you say on a Red Carpet when a reporter shouts out "Hey, Bill! What do you think of the new Star Trek movie?"
Must have been asked that question literally hundreds of times. Next week it will be "I hope that movie does well".
Move on. Nothing to see here, people.
Honestly, does anyone really think he was serious?
Yeah, he's a big fan of money, and yeah - he usually thinks of himself and often makes fun of others, but he has a very,
very dry sense of wit. Whether you find it funny or not.
A one line soundbite. The kind of thing you say on a Red Carpet when a reporter shouts out "Hey, Bill! What do you think of the new Star Trek movie?"
Must have been asked that question literally hundreds of times. Next week it will be "I hope that movie does well".
Move on. Nothing to see here, people.
I don't know or care whether he's bitter or not; I don't know him. I'm just trippin' at how determined people are to force an interpretation that makes them comfortable on the rest of the world as if it were a fact. I'm a little more interested in the reports of witnesses than in the opinions of Shatner's fans.
You are right, though...the insistence by people who don't know them that celebrities and the wealthy don't experience moods and frustrations in the same way other people do is naive, peculiarly unobservant in this day and age, and tinged with its own kind of envy - ie, the assumption that if one only had thus-and-so or had accomplished fill-in-the-blank everything would of course be peachy keen. T'ain't so.
Proximity_Phaser, I love your avatar. I had one of those, and it was the blue-and-brown one shown in your avatar (it also came in green and black; at the time we assumed that the green one was supposed to be Kirk's and the blue one Spock's. :thumbsup
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Unless someone close to him or Shatner himself says if he really meant it no one will ever really know if he is becoming bitter or just pulling a prank.
Either way believe what you like, just understand that if its confirmed in the way you dont believe then you are just going to have to accept that he is/isnt bitter.
Either way believe what you like, just understand that if its confirmed in the way you dont believe then you are just going to have to accept that he is/isnt bitter.
Completely true, except for the fact that there's no way for it to be "confirmed" after the fact unless we can see a video of it. Then we'd all be able to at least form qualified opinions, rather than debating the intelligence and integrity of the witnesses.
Matched only by your own personal obsession to convince the rest of us that he's not joking.
So...tell me about your mother.
Wrong. I don't care what you think - I really am intrigued, though, at the insistence by so many that a comforting guess unsupported by events as reported is a certain fact and the personal vituperation directed at posters who challenge that - especially anyone who views Shatner's antics with skepticism.
A rumour about Shatner saying something bad about the next Trek movie,and all hell breaks lose......Got to love those Trek fans.
While I was in the shower this morning, lathering, rinsing and repeating with the shampoo, I came up with a Dimestore Psychology look at "The Shat". He is the sum of his characters.
.ID..........EGO............SUPEREGO
Kirk....Shatner911....Denny Crane
Kirk is smooth and confident, generally a thinking man who usually maintains a feckless composure even in the worst of dire situations.
Denny Crane is confident, but not smooth. Crane is seldom a thinking man but a knee-jerk reactionary who often says and does outrageous things, much to the chagrin of those around him.
Shatner911 is William Shatner. Serious and sober when he needs/wants to be, capable of whimsy and about as genuine as the public Shatner gets.
Now Kirk and Shatner911 meet somewhere in the middle to form TJ Hooker, while Crane and Shatner911 meet to balance roles in Airplane 2, Miss Congeniality, Showtime, et.al. Somewhere between the broadest and the most centered.
Likewise Kirk has elements of Denny Crane in him sometimes - A Piece of the Action, The Trouble With Tribbles, and TVH for example; and Denny Crane can summon up the courage and conviction of Kirk...and both share unrepentent pasts with numerous women.
SO...the point of this is, IF this statement was made, it was made somewhere on the scale between Shatner911 and Denny Crane, probably closer to the DC side.
Just as the characters come from the man, there is (IMO) much of the man in each of the characters as well.
God that was an odd post. In fact, I was so involved in putting the theory together while showering, I couldn't remember if I REPEATED after lathering and rinsing so I probably ended up doing it twice. But GEE my hair smells terrific!
.ID..........EGO............SUPEREGO
Kirk....Shatner911....Denny Crane
Kirk is smooth and confident, generally a thinking man who usually maintains a feckless composure even in the worst of dire situations.
Denny Crane is confident, but not smooth. Crane is seldom a thinking man but a knee-jerk reactionary who often says and does outrageous things, much to the chagrin of those around him.
Shatner911 is William Shatner. Serious and sober when he needs/wants to be, capable of whimsy and about as genuine as the public Shatner gets.
Now Kirk and Shatner911 meet somewhere in the middle to form TJ Hooker, while Crane and Shatner911 meet to balance roles in Airplane 2, Miss Congeniality, Showtime, et.al. Somewhere between the broadest and the most centered.
Likewise Kirk has elements of Denny Crane in him sometimes - A Piece of the Action, The Trouble With Tribbles, and TVH for example; and Denny Crane can summon up the courage and conviction of Kirk...and both share unrepentent pasts with numerous women.
SO...the point of this is, IF this statement was made, it was made somewhere on the scale between Shatner911 and Denny Crane, probably closer to the DC side.
Just as the characters come from the man, there is (IMO) much of the man in each of the characters as well.
God that was an odd post. In fact, I was so involved in putting the theory together while showering, I couldn't remember if I REPEATED after lathering and rinsing so I probably ended up doing it twice.
But GEE my hair smells terrific!Kegek's Unified Theory of Shatner. It works.
I think its possible he might have meant it, go watch the special features on the STII directors edition and he seems quite miffed, years after the event, that he wasnt in the loop about the Spock "remember" scene.
Basically only way I see this being resolved without a doubt is if Shatner himself says one thing or another...but then if he says it was a joke people will say hes lying and if he says he meant it some will say hes joking.
Basically only way I see this being resolved without a doubt is if Shatner himself says one thing or another...but then if he says it was a joke people will say hes lying and if he says he meant it some will say hes joking.
Hey Superman (pka: Warped9) Your sig surprises me since in your previous sig; you claim 'Star Trek' (for you) ended after 1969. Thus, I'm amazed you want William Shatner so badly for this film since you obviously didn't care for the 6 TOS feature films; and onf TNG feature film he appeared in.
I guess I'm just surprised that you suddenly would give a post 1969 Star Trek project a chance, were William Shatner involved.
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