Shatner: "I hope that movie bombs"

[ancient]

This wasn't Shatner trying to be funny, it was Shatner being funny and the predicatable fans screaming bloody murder. Again.

Classic!

 

[Corran Horn]

ancient said:
This wasn't Shatner trying to be funny, it was Shatner being funny and the predicatable fans screaming bloody murder. Again.

Classic!

He'll have let us know when he's being funny. Perhaps with a light-up 'LAUGH!' sign...

 

[137th Gebirg]

ancient said:
This wasn't Shatner trying to be funny, it was Shatner being funny and the predicatable fans screaming bloody murder. Again.

Classic!

He does seem to know us quite well.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

ancient said:
This wasn't Shatner trying to be funny, it was Shatner being funny...

Wrong.

Hope no one was planning on nominating him for a Mark Twain award.

Cary L. Brown said:
You WANT him to be bitter and angry.

Guess again. I'd certainly get a kick out of a few of the truefen responding to what's actually reported instead of immediately imposing their worshipful "interpretations" on it.

I mean, the weirdest aspect of this whole incident is how everyone who wasn't there is immediately certain and insistent that it must have been a joke when they know nothing of the kind and what they propose is at variance with the witness' account.

It's like kids defending an abusive parent when the social worker comes 'round to check up - fearful loyalty placed ahead of rationality.

 

[Opus]

Cary L. Brown said:
You WANT him to be bitter and angry. Basically, you want him to suffer. Evidently he ran over your puppy?

Folks... the guy is remarkably well-balanced, doesn't take himself too seriously, CERTAINLY doesn't take this TV show/movie series all that seriously. He's had a good run, as an actor, and he's still doing well. He sees it as exactly what it is... A JOB!

The fact that some of you really really really want him to be a sad, old lonely guy who nobody likes is really irrelevant. HE IS NOT.

Fact is, he's happier, better adjusted, more successful, and just generally a better person than many of the posters on here.

He GETS IT.

The people who really, really, really want him to take this as seriously as they do...and as a result to be near-suicidal over not getting to play, at about 70 years old, a 27-year-old Jim Kirk... to be morose, bitter, and angry (like they seem to be), well, those people are the really pathetic ones here.

Anyone who (1) has watched Shatner in anything he's ever done (including but not limited to Star Trek), (2) has been observing the ongoing "well, aren't you mad" daily question regimen being foisted on the guy, and (3) has an actual SENSE OF HUMOR, will get this.

Those who don't simply are projecting their own sense of hate-filled "wishful thinking" on the guy.

Well put, Cary. Nuff said.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I honestly had no idea that so many people here had personally met Shatner and thus are in a position to know so much about him.

I mean, I've never met the man either, all I can go on is what he says. He said, and I quote, "I hope that movie bombs." That seems clear enough, really.

 

[Dan_Crout]

North Pole-aris said:
What a lot of Shatner's trufen miss is that his much-vaunted "sense of humor" is largely at other peoples' expense. It's the humor of a practical joker with a mean streak - he loves to tell stories about how he frustrated or upset an innocent party (the "literally eating Kelley's breakfast" ST 6 story for example - hah hah) and seems to have no clue as to the lack of empathy he reveals in the process. So of course he thought "Invasion Iowa" was a brilliant idea (along with the fact that he was paid money to do it, of course).

Dennis, your characterization of Shatner's humor appears accurate (to someone's who's never met the man). It also completely supports the idea that Shatner was screwing with the person who asked the question.

Dan

 

[Holytomato]

"I mean, I've never met the man either, all I can go on is what he says. He said, and I quote, "I hope that movie bombs." That seems clear enough, really."

"Those who don't simply are projecting their own sense of hate-filled "wishful thinking" on the guy."

"Well put, Cary. Nuff said."

:thumbsup:

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Dan_Crout said:It also completely supports the idea that Shatner was screwing with the person who asked the question.

No, it doesn't support anything - it allows for the possibility, certainly.

Just as it's possible that the person who reported this is not less perceptive or sophisticated than the average Trek fan and interpreted Shatner's tone pretty accurately.

 

[Superman]

Babaganoosh said:
Even George Takei, for all his pushing for a Captain Sulu/Excelsior series, would never stoop to Shatner's level.

I'm beginning to understand now why most of the original cast didn't get along with him. What a bitter, sad man he is.

Oh, wow...that's right. I'd forgotten.

You actually know Shatner. Personally, I mean.

So you can comment on this man's personality in a decisive and informed manner.

Your appraisal of him as "bitter" and "sad" is spot on, given your intimate knowledge of both Shatner as a person and his goals as an entertainer/performer.

I think the only sad person here is the one who judges an actor as a person based on his successful ability to act, which anyone with half a brain can see is what's really going on with this whole affair.

\S/

 

[Opus]

Superman said:

Babaganoosh said:
Even George Takei, for all his pushing for a Captain Sulu/Excelsior series, would never stoop to Shatner's level.

I'm beginning to understand now why most of the original cast didn't get along with him. What a bitter, sad man he is.

Oh, wow...that's right. I'd forgotten.

You actually know Shatner. Personally, I mean.

So you can comment on this man's personality in a decisive and informed manner.

Your appraisal of him as "bitter" and "sad" is spot on, given your intimate knowledge of both Shatner as a person and his goals as an entertainer/performer.

I think the only sad person here is the one who judges an actor as a person based on his successful ability to act, which anyone with half a brain can see is what's really going on with this whole affair.

\S/

Save your breath, Superman. There are two kinds of Trekkies: Those who took Shatner's "Get a life!" as a joke, and those who took it as a personal insult.

Glad to be the former.

 

[Balthier the Great]

OphaClyde said:

Superman said:

Babaganoosh said:
Even George Takei, for all his pushing for a Captain Sulu/Excelsior series, would never stoop to Shatner's level.

I'm beginning to understand now why most of the original cast didn't get along with him. What a bitter, sad man he is.

Oh, wow...that's right. I'd forgotten.

You actually know Shatner. Personally, I mean.

So you can comment on this man's personality in a decisive and informed manner.

Your appraisal of him as "bitter" and "sad" is spot on, given your intimate knowledge of both Shatner as a person and his goals as an entertainer/performer.

I think the only sad person here is the one who judges an actor as a person based on his successful ability to act, which anyone with half a brain can see is what's really going on with this whole affair.

\S/

Save your breath, Superman. There are two kinds of Trekkies: Those who took Shatner's "Get a life!" as a joke, and those who took it as a personal insult.

Glad to be the former.

I took it as a SNL skit. Not even the funniest in the show -- PHil Hartmann is funnier. And the jokes were written by SNL staff, not Shat.

But judging for other stuff, this smells like a joke to me. I don't claim to know anybody. But the statement sounded funny to me, so therefore it's a joke.

 

[Kryton]

THIS JUST IN:

Reports indicate Shatner drove out to the shooting location, snuck onto the set during a take, and proceeded to hide Leonard Nimoy's bicycle.

 

[Noname Given]

Kryton Kryngle said:
THIS JUST IN:

Reports indicate Shatner drove out to the shooting location, snuck onto the set during a take, and proceeded to hide Leonard Nimoy's bicycle.

UPDATE II:
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Leonard Nimory retaliated by giving Shatner's Toupee a 'Mohawk'.

 

[ancient]

North Pole-aris said:

ancient said:
This wasn't Shatner trying to be funny, it was Shatner being funny...

Wrong.

Hope no one was planning on nominating him for a Mark Twain award.

Whatever. I laughed.

 

[zenophite]

the more he says this stuff the more convinced i become that it is a ruse. He's probably going to be featured in the last scene of the movie.

 

[Borgminister]

Maybe a voice-over... "These are the voyages...."

 

[Plum]

Superman said:

Babaganoosh said:
Even George Takei, for all his pushing for a Captain Sulu/Excelsior series, would never stoop to Shatner's level.

I'm beginning to understand now why most of the original cast didn't get along with him. What a bitter, sad man he is.

Oh, wow...that's right. I'd forgotten.

You actually know Shatner. Personally, I mean.

So you can comment on this man's personality in a decisive and informed manner.

Your appraisal of him as "bitter" and "sad" is spot on, given your intimate knowledge of both Shatner as a person and his goals as an entertainer/performer.

I think the only sad person here is the one who judges an actor as a person based on his successful ability to act, which anyone with half a brain can see is what's really going on with this whole affair.

\S/

Yikes!

Nicely said Superman (and yes, I feel weird typing that out, cause, well, it's Superman!). How anyone can ignore reality so much and think that Bill Shatner, one of THE most successful people in Hollywoodland (and up for another EMMY this year) is somehow bitter and sad... sheesh.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Just because Shatner is famous and successful, doesn't mean he can't be bitter.

 

[Superman]

^^^Wow, you have a deep personal grudge against Mr. Shatner, don't you?

I'm pretty sure your role model Optimus Prime wouldn't go for this kind of judgmental assault on someone you don't know.

\S/