SGU....

[Warped9]

I thought there was a Stargate forum here abouts.

At any rate I caught the 2hr. season premiere...and fell asleep during the last half hour or so.

Take the Stargate universe, make it ever darker and grungy and populate it with younguns and all the stuff you'd expect TV folks to do today and voila...fall asleep.

I saw nothing here that interests me in the least.

I hated the camera work.

 

[Harvey]

There is a Stargate forum. Or, rather, it's a sub-forum now.

 

[Forbin]

They couldn't be trying harder to make this show feel like NuBSG.

 

[Warped9]

They couldn't be trying harder to make this show feel like NuBSG.

That's exectly what I thought as well.

 

[Harvey]

Although I'll point out the subforum once again, I thought they could have tried harder to make it like BSG. A lot harder. In many respects, it felt like they were trying to immitate BSG, but just weren't able to let go of what the franchise had been before.

 

[Pilot Ace]

I thought there was a Stargate forum here abouts.

http://www.trekbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30

 

[Tomato]

I never got into Stargate. Is it any good at all?

 

[Brent]

I thought there was a Stargate forum here abouts.

At any rate I caught the 2hr. season premiere...and fell asleep during the last half hour or so.

Take the Stargate universe, make it ever darker and grungy and populate it with younguns and all the stuff you'd expect TV folks to do today and voila...fall asleep.

I saw nothing here that interests me in the least.

I hated the camera work.

There is a Stargate forum, it is called Stargate, and it is linked right above this one, look up

Link for it - http://www.trekbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30

There is lots of discussion there about it, some agree with your opinions, most are very positive about it however. I'm on the positive side right now. I see potential, and I think the different feel is great for the show, its what it really needed. We'll just have to see if the stories hold up now, only time will tell.

 

[Kelso]

If they had wanted it to feel like BSG, they could have created some interesting characters or hired some talented actors.

I had to pause SGU about half way through to go to the bathroom... and then forgot that I had been watching it.

I haven't given up on the show but the first hour certainly didn't grab me.

 

[Brent]

They couldn't be trying harder to make this show feel like NuBSG.

Yes, in many aspects it is emulating nuBSG, and for me, that is OK. It is what this show needed IMO, it makes it feel much more realistic, and less cheezy. I think the direction, so far, is working, time will tell how well it works though of course. Let's give it a chance IMO.

Although I'll point out the subforum once again, I thought they could have tried harder to make it like BSG. A lot harder. In many respects, it felt like they were trying to immitate BSG, but just weren't able to let go of what the franchise had been before.

They could have gone farther in the nuBSG like'ness for sure. There were some scenes I was waiting for them to really go all out, and they didn't, I felt some pulling back. But that is ok because they still need that to interject the humor side of the show, and I think they balanced it well enough.

I never got into Stargate. Is it any good at all?

Why yes, quite good, depending on which series you watch, which seasons, etc... There are some bad episodes, like any series, but the good episodes outweigh the bad ones. Nothing beats the first few seasons of SG-1, they were the best. Then up to S8 SG-1 was pretty good. The season finale's and premiers for each season of SG-1 were great. Atlantis is a mixed bag, S1 is good, kinda falls off, then S5 picks up. SGU just started, so we'll see how that works out.

 

[davejames]

I gave up after the first 40 minutes. I'm all for a more serious tone (since the previous Stargates always seemed way too jokey and generic to me), but this was just dull as hell.

It's not enough just to LOOK dark and gritty like BSG-- you need some strong writing to go with it. Which this didn't have.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I saw nothing here that interests me in the least.

I agree with your froggy.

I suffered thru all of SG:A and all of SG-1 until the last season when it got absolutely intolerable. So it takes a lot to drive me away from the sole remaining space opera series on TV.

SG:U is boring. Just...boring.

I thought they could have tried harder to make it like BSG

I'm not sure they can. The writers on Stargate have never demonstrated the ability to write at anything close to that level, and they rarely hire actors of BSG caliber (whether because they don't pay the actors enough or the casting dept is incapable of judging acting ability, I have no idea).

Maybe their modest ambitions were right all along. Why try for the brass ring if you just don't have the reach?

The solution is to take Stargate away from the clowns who have been ruining it for over a decade and give it to Ron Moore. At least he can do something interesting with it, even if it will inevitably involve self-important blather and bizarre incoherence.

I never got into Stargate. Is it any good at all?

Depends on your definition of "good." If you insist on BSG/B5/DS9 level quality, you will be intensely disappointed.

 

[Archangel]

"Welcome to the internet, Everybody knows everything, and no one likes anything"

Not a Stargate fan and I watched this and found it enjoyable, if not a little high in cliche content. Seriously, did we really NEED Wesle...err Eli? Also how about Baltar 2.0?

The magic communication rocks had me thinking shark jump too, those need to be gone.

 

[Leroy]

The only reason I'm bothering to tune in every week for SGU is because this show is set in space although there isn't much to choose from lately for space shows. SGU is like nuBSG without the decent actors and compelling music and the only advantage I see is that there won't be any pretentiousness on the part of fans insisting it is the greatest at everything ever (see nuBSG). I also find it amusing that people dislike it based on the fact it isn't very original when just about everything is a rip off or was derived from something else.

 

[davejames]

The solution is to take Stargate away from the clowns who have been ruining it for over a decade and give it to Ron Moore. At least he can do something interesting with it, even if it will inevitably involve self-important blather and bizarre incoherence.

I'm not sure Moore is the right guy for it, but I agree they need to get an entirely new creative team. Because as far as I'm concerned, none of the shows I've seen have remotely done the concept justice.

In fact, with all the other scifi trappings they always have (spaceships, teleportation, alien attacks) the stargate itself almost seems an afterthought. Like just one more piece of alien hardware.

They need to get back to the spirit of the original movie, when the stargate was actually something wondrous and magical, and you had a team of soldiers and scientists who were actually kinda BELIEVABLE.

 

[sojourner]

"Welcome to the internet, Everybody knows everything, and no one likes anything"

Not a Stargate fan and I watched this and found it enjoyable, if not a little high in cliche content. Seriously, did we really NEED Wesle...err Eli? Also how about Baltar 2.0?

The magic communication rocks had me thinking shark jump too, those need to be gone.

He's not Baltar 2.0, he's a manic Carl Sagan.

Yea, right now the cast is feeling a little too SG-90210.

 

[Lindley]

The magic communication rocks had me thinking shark jump too, those need to be gone.

Those were introduced on SG-1. They can be a bit....convenient, but at least it's continuity.

The interesting question for me is----where are they in relation to the Orii galaxy? We know that was significantly farther than Pegasus, far enough that even the Ancients figured a black-hole-powered supergate was a better idea than making the trip in hyperspace. And they can keep up with the Asgard hyperdrives.

 

[firehawk12]

I never got into Stargate. Is it any good at all?

Depends on your definition of "good." If you insist on BSG/B5/DS9 level quality, you will be intensely disappointed.

Disappointed that it isn't as idiotic as BSG, as verbose as B5 and as Bermanesque as DS9?

Seriously though, if you're talking about the first 6 seasons of SG-1, it's probably one of the better SF series of the 90s.

 

[Mr Light]

The writing on the first six years of SG1, in some ways, was very clever. The solutions at episode's end were usually pretty ingenious and clever without being a techno-babble cop out. I also appreciated the 'realistic' attempt at portraying how unimportant and outclassed Earth was against the Gou'ald, how pathetic our technology was compared to theirs. Using ancient Earth religion/mythology for inspirations was also cool. But as it got into S7 it definitely lost steam and became a shadow of its former self. The gradual disappearance of RDA certainly didn't help.

 

[Brent]

The magic communication rocks had me thinking shark jump too, those need to be gone.

Those have been used in SG-1 before, it is established Ancient technology.