Destiny is closer to ~60 million years old, considering that if it was 1 million years old, it's aesthetics would be closer to Atlantis's and the more primitive gate means that it's older than the Antarctic gate, which was ~50 million years old.
SG-U – Resurgence - (2x10) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Yup, I made that point when the show first started. But as it was pointed out the Milky Way Gates are the first gates of all, according to Ark of Truth.
The 1 million year date has been consistent on Universe since it started, with access to the ships full computer library the date of launch should be known to them, Rush keeps saying 1 million. So either the writers have forgotten/have no clue (likely) or Destiny is using a deliberately dumbed down specially designed set of gear to be a as simple as possible for her jouney (possible).
Aesthetics and Ancient technology should have little correlation IMO. The Aurora class ships bore little resemblance to the city, which itself doesn't look too much like its own puddle jumpers overall. Hell, sections of the city hallways have been shown to have markely different architecture (in this case it happens as much a a re-use of old sets and incorporating compeltely different sets into their makeup - they bought the skyscraper sets from Blade III for example and it became the main corridors on Atlantis at the end of the first season).
There's no reason why a mashup of style could have existed multiple times over the course of Ancient civilization. As it stood, even the uniforms the Ancients wore changed practically every time we saw them in Atlantis, and all of them came from about the same time!
Mark
There's no reason why a mashup of style could have existed multiple times over the course of Ancient civilization. As it stood, even the uniforms the Ancients wore changed practically every time we saw them in Atlantis, and all of them came from about the same time!
Mark
Works for me. The oldest technology is in fact the stargate itself, and that's simply because the seeder ships are launched with that kind of gate, which matches the parameter of the intended mission just fine. Everything else is a shell waiting for the time the Ancients were needed, and they'd bring a gateful of STUFF with them to properly outfit Destiny to finish their mission.
BTW, I'm also of the mind that while Destiny was the intended destination of the ninth chevron, this may not always have been so. It does seem a little wierd that EVERY gate in the universe has nine chevrons, and with the right symbol combination and enough power ANY gate can make it to... A smallish ship with an obscure mission that (probably) doesn't affect the entire universe all that much beyond scientific or philosphical curiosity. I believe that the ninth chevron may once have pointed to one or more other REALLY FAR destinations at some point, which has simply changed over the years.
My pet theory is that every gate was originally programmed to connect back to the Ori galaxy via the ninth chevron, in the event the two diverging civilizations made up one day. If that ever happened, everyone who had scattered around the universe would have the means to come to their starting point, no matter how much space or time had passed. Obviously this didn't happen, and at some intervening point the Ancients abandonned the concept. Instead, they hatched the idea of determining the meaning of LTUAE by sending a small ship WAY OUT THERE and simply modifying the destination in the base code of all existing gates (which we know to be possible from "Avenger" et. al.). The nine-chevron address has nothing to do with physical coordinate geometry, it's just a combination; thus anyone can gate THERE when the time was right.
While a theory only with little fact to base it on, this helps me personally rationalize why the Ancients would embed a single destination to EVERY single gate there is out there that happens to be a smallish ship in the middle of nowhere, with no apparent record in any surviving database about it.
Mark
BTW, I'm also of the mind that while Destiny was the intended destination of the ninth chevron, this may not always have been so. It does seem a little wierd that EVERY gate in the universe has nine chevrons, and with the right symbol combination and enough power ANY gate can make it to... A smallish ship with an obscure mission that (probably) doesn't affect the entire universe all that much beyond scientific or philosphical curiosity. I believe that the ninth chevron may once have pointed to one or more other REALLY FAR destinations at some point, which has simply changed over the years.
My pet theory is that every gate was originally programmed to connect back to the Ori galaxy via the ninth chevron, in the event the two diverging civilizations made up one day. If that ever happened, everyone who had scattered around the universe would have the means to come to their starting point, no matter how much space or time had passed. Obviously this didn't happen, and at some intervening point the Ancients abandonned the concept. Instead, they hatched the idea of determining the meaning of LTUAE by sending a small ship WAY OUT THERE and simply modifying the destination in the base code of all existing gates (which we know to be possible from "Avenger" et. al.). The nine-chevron address has nothing to do with physical coordinate geometry, it's just a combination; thus anyone can gate THERE when the time was right.
While a theory only with little fact to base it on, this helps me personally rationalize why the Ancients would embed a single destination to EVERY single gate there is out there that happens to be a smallish ship in the middle of nowhere, with no apparent record in any surviving database about it.
Mark
^Works for me. Before now having known the Gates had an operating system I thought that maybe the 8th and 9th were there incase they needed to add to the Gates abilities over time, the 8th early on being used for added distance with the 9th still being an 'extra' incase a new ability was needed.
It would have been nice if one of the chevrons allowed for time travel, or even travel to alternate realities.
Please don't give them an idea for another spinoff with some mutant 10-chevron'd Gate.
^ I don't want anything like that. I just think that the writers could have found a better use for the additional chevrons than simply having them take you farther away than usual.
Great episode, annoying how immediately after finally watching it and being impressed, I hear about the cancellation. D'oh.
Are we still talking about Chloe, or the first season as a whole.
Are we still talking about Chloe, or the first season as a whole.
True, thats why I liked to think only the first 7 chevrons were hard coded from the beggining and that the 8th and 9th could be patched or programmed for various tasks.
And they might have been at some point, we know that 10,000 years ago the Ancients banned time travel experiments but possibly because of earlier experimentation, using one of the others.
Pegasus orbital Gates have all 8 or 9 light up when active, possibly being in orbit needs more. Some of them only have 8 chevrons oddly enough.