JayTheTrekkie said:
I didn't like Seven and Chakotay as a couple. He is like 19 years older than Seven (he was born in 2329 and Seven was born in 2348.
I've never seen the age difference as quite so great an obstacle as some fans seem to. But then, my father is 17 years older than my stepmother (they've been married for 32 years); a good friend is 20 years older than his wife (they've been married for nine years); and another friend is 18 years older than her partner (they've been together for 15 years).
Chakotay should have been with Janeway as it should have been done that way.
He should have been with her because he should have been with her? Um, okay....
Seriously, though I started the series as a J/Cer, by the time we got to the end of the series Janeway was the
last woman I wanted to see Chakotay with. Yes, I know full well that puts me in a minority. But the simple truth of the matter is that I don't think Janeway, as written, was ready or able to have a relationship, and certainly not with Chakotay.
First, we saw in "Scorpion 1" and "Equinox II" that she had a bad way of treating professional disagreement as personal betrayal. That would bode ill for the success of any relationship, especially one with the man whose very job description requires him to look for the weak points in her strategies. Second, we saw hints from the very beginning that, as captain, she did not consider herself eligible for a relationship, even if
Voyager's unusual circumstances made romantic entanglements more acceptable for the rest of the crew. Remember her remarks in "Elogium"? Third, while I saw plenty of proof in the first few seasons that he was attracted to her, I contend that the evidence for her attraction to him was much thinner on the ground. Fourth, if you consider Jeri Taylor's novel
Mosaic as canon (as many J/Cers I know seem to), then the whole bit with Daddy and Justin and the crash provides pretty strong evidence that Janeway can't handle it when someone she loves is at risk. And
really can't handle it if the situation ends badly. This strongly suggests that, for her, it really would be a mistake to get involved with someone from her crew -- dangerous for him and for her ability to command, too!
Finally: Sweet Mother of God, nobody really waits seven years for someone to make up her mind whether she "likes him likes him" or not, and if she does, whether she's going to act on it or not. I mean, yes, Chak's a nice guy and all, but that would just be masochism on his part -- especially as he would have had no reason to believe the wait would
ever end. That sort of crap is only romantic in stories about 10th-century knights; it would be hell for anyone to actually have to
live it.
As for Chakotay's relationship with Seven, well, why not? She's an intelligent, capable woman. She's unquestionably brave. Like Chakotay, she's religious in her own way; like Chakotay, she has a dry and quirky sense of humor. Unlike Janeway, she was both willing and able to declare herself to him; she even took the risk of deactivating her emotional failsafe for him. Yes, she's beautiful, but I think it's selling her short to suggest (as some have done) that the only reason he would have been attracted to her was because of her looks.
It's true there wasn't much foreshadowing, but hell, in "Endgame" they were only on their second date. There hadn't been that much "fore" to "shadow."
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