Seven And Make-Up

[The Caretaker]

I'm currently rewatching Season 4, and it's always amused me that as soon as Seven is 'deBorged' she wears immaculate make-up. I would have thought the Borg would have seen beauty as irrelevant, or did they assimilate a species with expert cosmetic skills?

Seven may not know how to eat or make small talk, but she's second to no-one when it comes to applying lipstick and eyeshadow!

 

[JanewayRulz!]

The BORG believe in PERFECTION... in everything.

 

[Timewalker]

The Doctor probably taught/had her taught during an early holodeck "social lesson."

Gah, you don't suppose that TLC show "What Not To Wear" is still around in the 24th century?

 

[Guy Gardener]

I supposed that human complexions where altered to look like makeup during the Eugenics wars, and after 4 hundred years of supermen interbreeding with mundanes, it's kinda bogstandard now.

I might say nanites, but bev didn't know what a nanite was in seaosn one TNG.

Holography?

 

[Timewalker]

Seven probably programmed a few nanoprobes to simulate makeup or stimulate the appropriate whatever to produce a rosy complexion. For sure she wouldn't bother with actual makeup. Even I never bother with actual makeup. If I want a rosy complexion, I have to make do with either sunburn or go outside on a cold day in winter.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But once Seven started using nanoprobes to no ill effect... Wouldn't the rest of the crew follow suit and nanoprobe-up too rather than spending hours in front of the mirror trying to look like 20th century actresses?

Remind me?

After 2 months living marooned with Chakotay in Resolutions, did Kathryn continue to wear make up?

I wonder if B'Elanna had to live through odd beauty therapy in her made up life in Remember, or Janeway to pass as a 20th century fox in Futures End, or if any of their learned routines form France 1944 carried over?

Honestly.

It doesn't matter how bad the war got, women still shaved their legs twice a week.

Ask you gammy.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Borg would have seen her gigantic breasts as irrelevent, too. Yet.... there they were.

Anyone care to explain what use a Borg drone would have had for them? FFS, arms and eyes are useful, and the Borg cut them off and gouge them out all the time.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The actress has regular implants in there, but you're thinking that those are real unimplanted breasts attached to the character rather than that those real life implants are playing the part of Borg implants serving some Borg function?

It's 16 years later and you never questioned the professionalism of Jeri's implants as actors.

The same unfortunately cannot be said for Gareth Dick Wang.

 

[Timewalker]

Remind me?

After 2 months living marooned with Chakotay in Resolutions, did Kathryn continue to wear make up?

I don't remember. It's been a really long time since I saw that episode.

It doesn't matter how bad the war got, women still shaved their legs twice a week.

Ask you gammy.

I can't. She's dead. And since she rarely wore any makeup at all, I doubt she cared much about her legs. It's not like she was dating during the war years; she was married in 1934 and had my dad a year later.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She escaped the ridiculous standards that prescribed normal back then if all the old movies were close to the truth?

Good for her.

Urban legend has me believe that under the rationing, poor girls would paint their legs with tea so that most wouldn't realise that they had run out of fresh nylons which was far more embarrassing than being caught out with tea stained calves by lads paying too much attention.

 

[Timewalker]

Well, she didn't escape all the prescribed norms. It wasn't until the 1970s that I got her deprogrammed enough to realize that it was okay for her to wear pants instead of dresses. After she realized how liberating it was not to have to freeze in the winter, she tried to get her sister (5 years older) to wear pants. But she never would.

My great-aunt was more progressive in other ways, though - she once gave me a Star Wars blanket and astronaut-themed school binder for Christmas. I still have them.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Good work there, but if you really wanted to fight the power, then you might have tried to get your uncles to wear dresses.

I was drunk with power trying to cope with the unrestricted freedom of movement the first time I wore a frock out in public

 

[Timewalker]

Yeah, right - like I was gonna convince my no-nonsense male relatives who did their utmost to drum into the females of the family that "it's a MAN'S world."

It would have been interesting to see the reaction my grandfather would have had after I joined the Society for Creative Anachronism, though (medieval re-creation group). He died before I joined, but I remember the reaction my grandmother, her best friend, and our cousin had upon seeing my boyfriend and another guy friend come to pick me up to go to a feast: "Those men are wearing DRESSES!!!"


Well, no. They were wearing tunics and hose. I was wearing a dress. A really long one, that went down to the floor. It's funny how I never minded wearing long dresses, but the last time I (reluctantly) wore a shorter dress was almost 25 years ago.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's almost like no one else know how to have fun.

Poor buggers.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The actress has regular implants in there,

You LIE. They are completely real.

And as to the make up.. 7 is a creation of the Doctor. They gave him this veiny, blotchy person that looked like she was seawater damaged and he went nuts with it. He loves beautiful women so all his restoration of 7 to humanity would be to his own taste. He no doubt set her complexion to "rosy hue".

People complain she looks like Barbie but that is just the kind of woman the doctor would design.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Saw a sitcom the other day, can't recall what it was...

One of the male characters in a bar points to a npc female and says of her fleshtone "That colour appears nowhere in nature." and his friend replies "Sure it does, that's whorange."

If Voyager was made a couple years later, the makeup departement might have gone for a slightly different look.

 

[sonak]

can we have a definitive answer on the bigger question? Real or fake?

 

[Sindatur]

can we have a definitive answer on the bigger question? Real or fake?

Annika was a child when she was assimilated, and they didn't look any smaller when Voyager first rescued her from the Borg, so, I don't think the Doctor added any size, therefore, I think they must be Standard Issue Borg Maturation size.

 

[The Badger]

They're not breasts. That's extra storage area for nanotech. You'll notice the Queen has them too, though not to such am impressive degree. Clearly Seven was being prepared for a high role in the collective.

 

[Guy Gardener]

of course she doesn't need extrastorage.

She's the queen.

Extratorage in boobies, cankles and buts is for drones...

but what about pregnant ladies?

The kid gets ripped out and and seeded into a maturation chamber... but what about all that extra space? I mean without constant exercises for a few months, her belly is just going to flap around like a flag unless it's stuffed with something else like perhaps a small sever farm.

Sonak, a healthy fearful woman with options is supposed to replace or remove her impants every 5 years to avoid complications becuase implants don't have the greatest life expectancy and they're almost poisoness timebombs egarly anticpating the moment they can murder thier host.

had is not the same as having.

Especially if she has children, which she does, and planned on breast feeding.

But what does Jeri now have to do with Seven then?

They're two completely different people.