Settling Issues In Combat

[Mr Silver]

Sometimes I think life would be easier if various issues could be settled in ritualistic combat. The amount of legal jargon, documents and policies are mind numbing. I'll give an example, recently I was helping a friend fill out a tax rebate (that would give them a return of £94.85), it took us almost 3 days to go over all the paperwork and check out that everything that was required was included.

So, back onto ritualistic combat. I think for things such as legal disputes, combat should be a viable alternative. In the interest of fairness, both parties can nominate one person (either themselves or a substitute) and both nominated combatants must be closely matched in terms of physical skill and conditioning. It should be a fair fight with a referee. The fight will be judged by an independent panel (similar to a jury) and they will be used if the match does not end by KO, Referee Stoppage or Submission (when a competitor taps out or quits).

I think this could be applied to the following disputes

*Account Disputes with Banks
*Debt Collection
*Disputed Refunds
*Tax Returns and Rebates

Thoughts?

 

[captcalhoun]

i could go with that for disputed refunds. i coulda punched the dappy mare who i had to give a refund to today.

 

[infinix]

If you allow disputing parties to appoint their own avatars, then there would be entire industries built around selling that service.

Also, it would be impossible to determine fighting ability. Here's a scenario. I cheated my customers out of money, and my customer challenge me in a ritualistic combat. I pick a quadriplegic as my avatar to fight for me. Because my challenger has to pick someone similar in fighting ability, they also have to pick a quadriplegic. The fight goes no where, ends in a draw. I keep the money.

 

[B.J.]

 

[Mr Silver]

If you allow disputing parties to appoint their own avatars, then there would be entire industries built around selling that service.

Also, it would be impossible to determine fighting ability. Here's a scenario. I cheated my customers out of money, and my customer challenge me in a ritualistic combat. I pick a quadriplegic as my avatar to fight for me. Because my challenger has to pick someone similar in fighting ability, they also have to pick a quadriplegic. The fight goes no where, ends in a draw. I keep the money.

Naturally, people with physical or mental difficulties would be barred by law from competiting. A fight will not end in a draw, the judges will not be privvy to which party each combatant is fighting for.

As for industries selling that service, perhaps that would be a good idea, however both parties would need to make their choice of avatar public knowledge and then an independent enforcer would be on hand to determine if the combatants were as evenly matched as possible. W/D/L records would not be kept and parties would only be allowed to use each combatant once, per dispute.

For the sake of argument, lets just say that Ritual Combat would only be used in this manner when it involves corporations and a serious amount of money, just purely because of the expense it would incur.

 

[infinix]

Naturally, people with physical or mental difficulties would be barred by law from competiting. A fight will not end in a draw, the judges will not be privvy to which party each combatant is fighting for.

As for industries selling that service, perhaps that would be a good idea, however both parties would need to make their choice of avatar public knowledge and then an independent enforcer would be on hand to determine if the combatants were as evenly matched as possible. W/D/L records would not be kept and parties would only be allowed to use each combatant once, per dispute.

For the sake of argument, lets just say that Ritual Combat would only be used in this manner when it involves corporations and a serious amount of money, just purely because of the expense it would incur.

In that case, why not think of it as Jedi Knight system? The group of fighters are maintained and trained outside of influence of any political, economical, cultural, or religious interests. They exist solely for the purpose of these ritual combats. Everyone received the same training and those who can't keep up are washed out to become sports stars.

Whenever parties dispute, they are randomly assigned fighters from this group who are divided by age, height, and weight. These fighters will be revered and respected throughout the land and it is a great honor whenever a child is chosen to participate in trials.

Sounds like a good idea. But good luck keeping corruption out of the system.

 

[LitmusDragon]

 

[Sephiroth]

it would make mortgage disputes more interesting, plus i'd like to cream a few lawyers in the ring

 

[LitmusDragon]

Wasn't this a staple of the 1900s? "Good sir, I challenge you to a duel?", that kind of thing? Or did that only happen in the movies.

 

[Mr Silver]

Wasn't this a staple of the 1900s? "Good sir, I challenge you to a duel?", that kind of thing? Or did that only happen in the movies.

That was more 1700's, pre Victorian days. And those were honour duels based on reputation, etc and carried out with pistols or (rarely) with swords. In the Victorian ages, Law became a very big deal and by the early 1900's, everything was settled in court.

In the 1800's, duels were common place in 'Western' America for any concievable dispute.

 

[FPAlpha]

About the only thing i'd like to see settled with combat are emerging wars and conflicts but it has to be the leaders who take to the ring and not the grunts.

Wars would vanish instantly.

 

[iguana_tonante]

The group of fighters are maintained and trained outside of influence of any political, economical, cultural, or religious interests. They exist solely for the purpose of these ritual combats.

Sooo... slaves?

 

[Mr Silver]

About the only thing i'd like to see settled with combat are emerging wars and conflicts but it has to be the leaders who take to the ring and not the grunts.

Wars would vanish instantly.

We'd be screwed, between David Cameron or The Queen (if Monarchy has to take responsibility).

Can you imagine the Queen mounted on a Clydesdale, strolling up to Colonel Gaddafi?

 

[KJbushway]

I would end up paying zero. I will win that, all that.

 

[Holdfast]

Can you imagine the Queen mounted on a Clydesdale, strolling up to Colonel Gaddafi?

Are you kidding? In one on one combat between QEII and Gaddafi, I'd say QEII would win every time. Dude has totally gone to seed, whereas I bet she could connect a serious right hook with her handbag and win by KO in the second round.

 

[F. King Daniel]

About the only thing i'd like to see settled with combat are emerging wars and conflicts but it has to be the leaders who take to the ring and not the grunts.

Wars would vanish instantly.

We'd be screwed, between David Cameron or The Queen (if Monarchy has to take responsibility).

Can you imagine the Queen mounted on a Clydesdale, strolling up to Colonel Gaddafi?

Please don't ever use the words "David Cameron", "screwed" and "The Queen" in the same sentence again.

Need brain soap.

 

[Captain_Nick]

This would mean the end of justice as we know it

 

[infinix]

The group of fighters are maintained and trained outside of influence of any political, economical, cultural, or religious interests. They exist solely for the purpose of these ritual combats.

Sooo... slaves?

Sooo.... missed the part where I said this group of people will be revered and honored throughout the land?

Besides, I said it wasn't going to work anyway.

 

[Davros]

The group of fighters are maintained and trained outside of influence of any political, economical, cultural, or religious interests. They exist solely for the purpose of these ritual combats.

Sooo... slaves?

Sooo.... missed the part where I said this group of people will be revered and honored throughout the land?

Besides, I said it wasn't going to work anyway.

Celebrated slaves would still be slaves.

 

[infinix]

Sooo... slaves?

Sooo.... missed the part where I said this group of people will be revered and honored throughout the land?

Besides, I said it wasn't going to work anyway.

Celebrated slaves would still be slaves.

Why would you think of them as slaves? Where in my original post did I say that people will be forced to be a fighter?

Would you consider NFL players or the WWE superstars as slaves?