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Series 9 Set Reports Thread (SPOILERS)

I think we've gotten enough of the Time War over the years. We've seen the Time Lords on Gallifrey a few times now. It's also been, what, like 1000 years in the Doctor's life since the Time War ended. It's time to move on.
 
Heck, I felt they had moved on. The Eleventh barely made a fuss about destroying his people during series 5 and 6. It slowly began resurfacing in series 7 because Moffat was being Moffaty and couldn't think of a better way to celebrate the show's 50 years than by celebrating its almost-9 years! Complete with a pointless retcon of "new" Doctor, with (an admittedly successful) stunt casting.

But really, I felt the entire point of End of Time was precisely to close that storyline once and for all. I mean, how much more obvious can it get than the Doctor literally banishing Gallifrey back to the past?
 
Heck, I felt they had moved on. The Eleventh barely made a fuss about destroying his people during series 5 and 6.

Exactly. He was "the man who forgets." At that point, he was 400 years removed from it. He "moved on," as he told his younger self.

It slowly began resurfacing in series 7 because Moffat was being Moffaty and couldn't think of a better way to celebrate the show's 50 years than by celebrating its almost-9 years!

Which is why what Clara said to the War Doctor, that she could "see it in his eyes," didn't ring true for me.
 
But really, I felt the entire point of End of Time was precisely to close that storyline once and for all. I mean, how much more obvious can it get than the Doctor literally banishing Gallifrey back to the past?

The Day and Time Of The Doctor brought Gallifrey back to teh forefront. But along with it Moffat created yet again another impasse, they can't allow the Doctor to find and bring back Gallifrey without restarting the Time War.
 
But really, I felt the entire point of End of Time was precisely to close that storyline once and for all. I mean, how much more obvious can it get than the Doctor literally banishing Gallifrey back to the past?

The Day and Time Of The Doctor brought Gallifrey back to teh forefront. But along with it Moffat created yet again another impasse, they can't allow the Doctor to find and bring back Gallifrey without restarting the Time War.

You just have to feel bad for the Doctor at this point.
Cause despite all the victories he has had over the Daleks since then they are basically back to full empire strength while the time lords, while not exterminated are at least in complete exile which puts him and them totally on the losing side of the war.

They are like Harry and Voldemort. Neiher can live while the other survives.

And since the show will never kill off the Daleks for good I don't see how the Time Lords can return without handwaving away the threat of a new time war.
 
It can loom like a shadow over a protected Gallifrey. The Time Lords can come back as long as they are protected from the Daleks. I imagine the Time Lords are worn out from the Time War and have no real hope of continuing it if they are returned to the universe. If protected, they can go back to their old ways, of mostly non-interference, yet fixing temporal problems and making the universe at least somewhat safer to travel to and from.

Like in the old days, if there is a problem with the Daleks, send the Doctor. The Time Lords are just their enemy (like basically everything else in the universe)...the Doctor is what they fear. To the point they can't even just shot him, they fear him that much.
 
It can loom like a shadow over a protected Gallifrey. The Time Lords can come back as long as they are protected from the Daleks. I imagine the Time Lords are worn out from the Time War and have no real hope of continuing it if they are returned to the universe. If protected, they can go back to their old ways, of mostly non-interference, yet fixing temporal problems and making the universe at least somewhat safer to travel to and from.

Like in the old days, if there is a problem with the Daleks, send the Doctor. The Time Lords are just their enemy (like basically everything else in the universe)...the Doctor is what they fear. To the point they can't even just shot him, they fear him that much.

Sending the Doctor to deal with their problems let alone the Daleks is how the Time War started in the first place with Genesis Of The Daleks.
 
A lot has happened since then. It is clear that in the aftermath of the Time War, the surviving Daleks fear the Doctor. Back in the days before the Time War, he was an enemy, but they didn't fear him.

They call him their Predator.
 
Might this be the way to bring Mcgann back for a full series or special later?

That's never happening and will never happen. I guarantee outside of a multi-Doctor team-up we'll never see Paul McGann's Doctor on screen again.
Why can you guarantee that?

Because past Doctors don't com back to star in their very own special, and they certainly don't get a full series after their term is over. As far as television is concerned, we don't see a past Doctor after their successor is introduced unless it's a multi-Doctor story.

Yeah, I get it, it sucks that Paul McGann's on screen library is one kind of okay TV movie and one really awesome but too damn short webisode, but fandom should get used to the idea that that's all we're getting from him unless he is brought back for the next team-up with another Doctor or anniversary special.
 
A lot has happened since then. It is clear that in the aftermath of the Time War, the surviving Daleks fear the Doctor. Back in the days before the Time War, he was an enemy, but they didn't fear him.

They call him their Predator.

They called him the Oncoming Storm and they always feared him.
 
Actually, that 'Oncoming Storm' title started in Seven's time ('Ka Faraq Gatri,' in the Daleks' language), first mentioned in the NA novel Love and War. 'Destroyer of Worlds,' which Davros spit at Ten in Journey's End, also started around then (probably because of Seven blowing up Skaro, or what he thought was Skaro). Both titles were used in Eight's BBC novels as well.
 
That's never happening and will never happen. I guarantee outside of a multi-Doctor team-up we'll never see Paul McGann's Doctor on screen again.
Why can you guarantee that?

Because past Doctors don't com back to star in their very own special, and they certainly don't get a full series after their term is over. As far as television is concerned, we don't see a past Doctor after their successor is introduced unless it's a multi-Doctor story.

Yeah, I get it, it sucks that Paul McGann's on screen library is one kind of okay TV movie and one really awesome but too damn short webisode, but fandom should get used to the idea that that's all we're getting from him unless he is brought back for the next team-up with another Doctor or anniversary special.
I'm thinking back to reports at the time 'Night of the Doctor' got everyone excited and McGann was supposedly called in to talk more. It was Moffat who put the Kibosh on it.
McGann didn't really have "a term". He is extremely popular, especially after the webisode. He himself is interested to come back. If the Moff goes then who knows what the next person in charge will think about it.
 
Why can you guarantee that?

Because past Doctors don't com back to star in their very own special, and they certainly don't get a full series after their term is over. As far as television is concerned, we don't see a past Doctor after their successor is introduced unless it's a multi-Doctor story.

Yeah, I get it, it sucks that Paul McGann's on screen library is one kind of okay TV movie and one really awesome but too damn short webisode, but fandom should get used to the idea that that's all we're getting from him unless he is brought back for the next team-up with another Doctor or anniversary special.
I'm thinking back to reports at the time 'Night of the Doctor' got everyone excited and McGann was supposedly called in to talk more. It was Moffat who put the Kibosh on it.
McGann didn't really have "a term". He is extremely popular, especially after the webisode. He himself is interested to come back.

Moffat interpreted the popularity of Night of the Doctor as proof that webisodes should be taken more seriously and said there would be more of an effort to make future ones more relevant to the show. Although we haven't gotten any since then.

If the Moff goes then who knows what the next person in charge will think about it

The focus on the franchise will always be on the incumbent Doctor, we've seen that in 2005 BBC practically suspended merchandising for all Doctors prior to Eccleston with the exception of DVDs and audio dramas. True, merchandising for the other Doctors has since been reinstated, but the idea of bringing back a former Doctor to the show outside of multi-Doctor team-ups is a foreign idea and unprecedented in over 50 years that even if the next showrunner were inclined to do it, it's a very real possibility BBC wouldn't allow it.

But even then, I can't see why they'd be inclined to do it. Such an idea sounds like it would only appeal to the fans and wouldn't have the kind of broader general audience interest necessary.
 
And they're back in Fuerteventura again to finish shooting the series where they started. Of course, this time there won't be much of a break as they'll have to start the Xmas Special soon. I wonder if they'll shoot it all in the Studio again to preserve the mystery of who is or isn't in it?
 
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