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Series 1: 'Duet'

Mr_Closet

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Hi Folks.

I hope you'll pardon my indulgence in posting in lengthy fashion on a subject you've no doubt all done to death. However, I haven't discussed Trek for a long time and have recently found myself gravitating back to it after a long break.

I've been watching DS9 reruns on cable lately. I haven't seen any in years because prior to Virgin's takeover, the only Trek I got was delivered courtesy of Sky, and Sky never showed DS9 as far as I can tell.

Anyway, I've been enjoying the return of the Cinderella spin-off series, particularly the early seasons which were, in my humble opinion, the best of the lot. This was underlined when I decided there had been 5 seasons, only to belatedly realise there were 7 when I visited Jammer's Reviews to read up on one or two. This was revealing. It told me I didn't rate the last 3 seasons and had, it seemed, blanked them out! :lol:

The other evening I saw 'Duet' and was rivetted. Can't recall whether I saw it the first time around, but it seemed fresh and vibrant even so, and that is a hallmark of good writing and equally good acting. Visitor was on form as the "inflatable Major". On this occassion her passion and habitual lack of compromise over anything occupation-related were amply justified by the plot at hand. On many other occassions this attitude has been tiresome, if nevertheless believable in someone with Kira's background.

Her opposite number was played by Harris Yulin, a man whose work I'm not familiar with but wish I was after seeing this performance. The villain of the piece was not overplayed, which was a trap he could easily have fallen into in this instance, and the final twist was brilliantly and believably executed.

The other highpoint for me was the portrayal of Sisko's reaction to the situation. He's caught between a legal rock and a principled hard place. He has to respect Federation policy and law and due process, but in this case he finds himself unable to satisfy either side of the debate. He knows there's something deeply amiss with this Cardassian traveller, something that warrants further investigation, but he's also struggling to uphold the traveller's rights in a free society. Suspicion alone is not grounds for detention without charge for what, if Kira had her way, would be an indefinite period that would end in public execution for crimes he may not have committed. For an episode first aired in 1993, this aspect is surprisingly relevant to the situation we find ourselves in today.

All in all, a damn good bit of TV. The kind of TV that I would hold up as evidence to all the nay-sayers and those who condemn the genre of science fiction out of hand as entertainment for those who never grew past puberty. Those who say science fiction can't be adult entertainment better get a load of this.

Ultimately, it's such a damn shame that they squandered all the possibilities this show exhibited in the beginning. They shot themselves in the foot by trying to be a Trek version of Babylon 5 (if that's what they were doing) and bogging themselves down in dead ends. The last 3 seasons rightly earned the show the monica of Deep Space Snoring. Only the grand space opera of the space battles kept me watching, because I like a good space battle like anyone else. But I'll always take an episode like 'Duet' over any cosmic fireworks show with burning spaceships and explosions reverberating through a gasless vacuum.

Cheers,
 
First of all Deep Space Nine came before Babylon 5. Second of all I personally think the Dominion War arc was pulled off better than Babble-On Five's Shadow War, partially because I cared more about the protaganists, and second becuase the antagonists in B5 were a bit boring.
 
Disagree with most of the content of the OP. They were not trying to be like B5 and a few of the DS9 showrunners have even gone on record saying they didn't watch B5 because they didn't like how JMS inaccurately accused them of stealing his stuff. And DS9 could reasonably be argued to be better than B5 anyhow seeing as B5 doesn't have any discernable good qualities which DS9 does not also have too.

Besides all that, DS9 is chockfull of great episodes in every Season, tons of which are as good as or much better than Duet.

Have no idea whastoever what you mean by "bogging themselves down in dead ends"? :alienblush:

DS9's last couple of seasons were the best scifi ever put on TV. There's plenty of meat there and cosmic fireworks were always a very, very small part of that.
 
I liked Duet a lot. :D

One thing that's great about this episode is that it has just one plot. Trek often has A and B plots. Not Duet. It's all A plot. We never leave the story. It's focused and powerful. The plot drives the characters forward.

Tight.
 
I've also been watching the reruns on Virgin. Up to 'Distant Voices', which I didn't remember but rather liked.

Sky used to show DS9 in reruns, but I haven't seen any DS9 on Sky since oh, say, around 2003.

And 'Duet' is one of my two all-time favourite DS9 episodes. The other is in season six: 'In the Pale Moonlight.'
 
Duet really sold me on the show. Such an awesome episode. And at the end...when Kira says "No....it's not." PERFECTION!
 
This was one of the early episodes that annoyed me and caused me to lose interest in the show.

I'm sitting there watching it and thinking, "not only are they just nakedly ripping off 'The Man In The Glass Booth' but they're not doing it nearly so well."
 
^ You're one of the few people I know of that didn't like this episode. It usually makes it into the DS9 top five when we rate episodes.
 
He is right about it being based on 'The Man in the Glass Booth', though. I view this as a positive thing - this was the first episode to strongly imply the Cardassians were anlogous to the Nazis, a theme DS9 touched on throughout its run.
 
Lawrence Pressman must have not had too many qualms about the DS9 version -- he was in TMITGB, and also later lent himself to play Legate Ghemor.
 
I'm just surprised Dennis is even IN this forum... unless, of course he's slumming with intent :p

Duet is my favorite DS9 ep.
 
Tralis said:
First of all Deep Space Nine came before Babylon 5. Second of all I personally think the Dominion War arc was pulled off better than Babble-On Five's Shadow War, partially because I cared more about the protaganists, and second becuase the antagonists in B5 were a bit boring.

Yeah. For one thing DS9 actually had a main bad guy and an enemy that could actually win battles. The Founders were so much smarter about how they did things then the Shadows its not even funny.

The DS9/B5 comparison if phony. It's only there because JMS has an inferiority complex. DS9 was the 1# rated syndicated show during most of its run, and JMS couldn't stand that. The concept is the same, but everything else is different. It's like saying Angel is a ripoff of Blade. It's a similar concept. A tortured soul vampire who kills other vampires out of guilt on a quest for redemption. The concept is similar, but the execution is totally different.

Ultimately, it's such a damn shame that they squandered all the possibilities this show exhibited in the beginning. They shot themselves in the foot by trying to be a Trek version of Babylon 5 (if that's what they were doing) and bogging themselves down in dead ends. The last 3 seasons rightly earned the show the monica of Deep Space Snoring. Only the grand space opera of the space battles kept me watching, because I like a good space battle like anyone else. But I'll always take an episode like 'Duet' over any cosmic fireworks show with burning spaceships and explosions reverberating through a gasless vacuum.

Oh bullshit. The first three seasons, while it did have some good episodes, was stagnant and directionless. It was just a grittier version of Next Gen, but on a space station. It's basicly what Berman wanted the whole 7 seasons to be like. The last three seasons are the reason people love that show. Under Berman's vision it wouldn't have even made it to 7 seasons. The success of the 4400 and NuBSG, along with the failure of Enterprise, prove how outdated the OP's and Rick Berman's vision is and how relevant Ron Moore's ,Rene Echeveria's and Ira Behr's vision is.
 
I'm one of the few who think that early DS9 was better and much more interesting than later seasons(the Dominion War arc) of DS9.

This terrific episode was an example of why. The early seasons' focus on Bajoran and Cardassian politics was much more interesting than ANOTHER Sci-Fi war show. Think how many sci-fi war shows there've been. Babylon 5, Space: Above and Beyond, Battlestar Galactica, etc.

What's also impressive is that this is a first season episode. Considering that post-TOS Star Trek series often took a while to get going shows how strong DS9 was from its beginning.

Harris Yulin is also great as Quentin Travers from "Buffy."
 
Duet is certainly the first "great" episode of DS9. But you should watch the series all the way through. It really hits its stride in S4, S5-S6 is the best stretch and while early S7 wobbled, they came back strong for the ending.

Still the best TV series ever (pending final results from Dexter and Lost ;)).

I'm just surprised Dennis is even IN this forum... unless, of course he's slumming with intent

Damn WGA strike! Nothing to talk about. Desperation is setting in. ;)
 
I saw this episode last night and it's in my top 3 episodes of DS9 as a series. Fantastic episode.
 
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