All they need is stability behind the scenes.
Section 31 was Michelle Yeoh's idea
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All they need is stability behind the scenes.
Yeah, I think they’ve done better with short form than serialization. I’m sure juggling all the balls is difficult, and the behind-the-scenes chaos hasn’t helped, but I’m not yet convinced the type of Trek I like works well as season-long arcs. So far, the format has felt as rigid and confining as episodic, only with more padding and unsatisfying payoffs at the end.
I hope you’re right. But if we pull back from Discovery, the franchise has been forcing Trek into the stock Hollywood blockbuster format for many years now. Even Picard, billed as the meditative Trek show, ultimately served up another universe-ending threat that ended the season in disappointment. It, too, stuck to the template. How many movies and shows do I sit through before I accept this is a deliberate direction?
I’ll be curious to see, 20 years from now, if Chabon told the story he wanted or if he had to fit it into rigid studio parameters for what modern Star Trek is. If the latter’s the case, I worry we’re likely to continue getting similar product regardless of showrunner or behind-the-scenes stability.
I would say stop sitting through it.
I feel like the serialization is mucking with a lot of fans understanding of the show, which is actually episodic with an overarching plot ala Buffy the Vampire Slayer not serialized like Game of Thrones. In DISCO, we get a bunch of stand-alones like Religion Planet, Prison Break, Mudd's Magic Crystal, and so on. In Picard, we have Freecloud murder spree and Nepenthe along with fighting a Romulan crime lord.
It's just at the end that the galaxy is threatened.
I was thinking more prime section 31 in the mirror universe. So a relatively rogue outfit going up against an evil empire.
But I'd be very interested in your idea too. Maybe the 2 different section 31s can team up.
I think this might be Star Trek's first show that goes deep into Martial Arts. Basically Trek's version of the David Carradine Kung Fu show. She travels the land(Alpha Quadrant) helping people. Maybe with a few followers as well. Doing it under the guise of Section 31 even though Section 31 has officially been shut down by Starfleet. Thus this is also the story about how they will basically be a rogue group by the time of DS9. Plus the characters like mentioned will be trained in Martial Arts because you don't want waste your Yeoh while you have someone of her talent in the fold. I know they were thinking of a Mudd show at some point so I expect him to play some role on the show. If not as a regular than as someone who shows up from time to time with supplies or weapons they need. I am guessing they will have either a ship or a base so they can at least have some standing sets which certainly help save some money. If it's a base I am expecting something like long range transporters to be used in order to get them around while also driving Trek fans insane due to the continuity issue about using such a thing in TOS time.
Jason
Jason
The problem, to me, is that the tentpole storylines just haven’t delivered — and often don’t even make sense. The Klingon war, the Mirror Universe, the Red Angel, Control, the android business in Picard ... they’ve all ended up underwhelming. The parts that have worked have been smaller scale and character-driven, such as the Pike episode and the Picard and Data relationship. But that stuff is treated as secondary to spectacle and forced into a template that is, after only three seasons, already very obvious and predictable.
To clarify an earlier statement, I do think Trek can work as a serialized show. I think at least some element of serialization is essential for the franchise’s future. But the template they’re using — and it’s clearly a template — isn’t working for me, and I hope they change it up for Discovery’s season three.
