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Section 31: I hope it still happens.

Yeah, I wish they'd just left it at that. His closest friends didn't know he was engaged, who his parents were, that he had a childhood pet and half brother...

This, a million times over. Every single “complaint” about Michael being Spock’s adoptive sister somehow “contradicting” past canon/continuity told on themselves, because Spock not volunteering personal information about his family is in fact entirely in character, supported repeatedly with his previous actions onscreen in every instance of meeting one of his family members.

‪‪‪I love the addition of Michael and Spock’s relationship to Spock’s history and character, and the first time ‪‪I watched TOS’s Operation: Annihilate after the end of Discovery’s second season, ‪‪I couldn’t help but think when Spock empathized with Kirk who was reacting to finding his own brother dead, saying “Captain, I understand how you must--” before Kirk cut him off, that Spock was recalling the loss of his own sister when she travelled into the future at the end of Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2.

‪‪I know it didn’t have the same impact for eveyone else, but Michael’s familial connection to Spock was never an error or contradiction that required explanation.
 
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This, a million times over. Every single “complaint” about Michael being Spock’s adoptive sister somehow “contradicting” past canon/continuity told on themselves, because Spock not volunteering personal information about his family is in fact entirely in character, supported repeatedly with his previous actions onscreen in every instance of meeting one of his family members.

‪‪‪I love the addition of Michael and Spock’s relationship to Spock’s history and character, and the first time ‪‪I watched TOS’s Operation: Annihilate after the end of Discovery’s second season, ‪‪I couldn’t help but think when Spock empathized with Kirk who was reacting to finding his own brother dead, saying “Captain, I understand how you must--” before Kirk cut him off, that Spock was recalling the loss of his own sister when she travelled into the future at the end of Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2.

‪‪I know it didn’t have the same impact for eveyone else, but Michael’s familial connection to Spock was never an error or contradiction that required explanation.
Nice connection.
 
I love the addition of Michael and Spock’s relationship to Spock’s history and character, and the first time ‪‪I watched TOS’s Operation: Annihilate after the end of Discovery’s second season, ‪‪I couldn’t help but think when Spock empathized with Kirk who was reacting to finding his own brother dead, saying “Captain, I understand how you must--” before Kirk cut him off, that Spock was recalling the loss of his own sister when she travelled into the future at the end of Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2.
Hmm, interesting. I've always retconned that as Spock thinking of Sybok, who is technically "dead" to Spock at the time, given Spock likely hadn't seen or heard from Sybok since his exile, but it certainly works with Michael. Indeed, you could say Spock would especially know what Kirk is experiencing losing a sibling, as Spock had lost both of his at that time.
 
I'm late to this party, but I'd be cool with a Section 31 show. I could imagine that it would be almost a slightly cynical version of a Tom Clancy story. In any good Clancy story, the CIA agents and US politicians are clearly the "good guys" doing right by king and country. I could see a Section 31 show where the ship/agents view themselves this way as well and perhaps even justify crossing moral lines "for the good of the Federation." Yet it could be interesting to see this worldview through a modern lens where perhaps not all of their actions are as objectively "good" or righteous as their belief/intentions. The interplay between the ideal vs reality of what they do might make for a somewhat darker, but quite interesting Trek series.
 
I'm late to this party, but I'd be cool with a Section 31 show. I could imagine that it would be almost a slightly cynical version of a Tom Clancy story. In any good Clancy story, the CIA agents and US politicians are clearly the "good guys" doing right by king and country. I could see a Section 31 show where the ship/agents view themselves this way as well and perhaps even justify crossing moral lines "for the good of the Federation." Yet it could be interesting to see this worldview through a modern lens where perhaps not all of their actions are as objectively "good" or righteous as their belief/intentions. The interplay between the ideal vs reality of what they do might make for a somewhat darker, but quite interesting Trek series.
Well put.
 
I'm late to this party, but I'd be cool with a Section 31 show. I could imagine that it would be almost a slightly cynical version of a Tom Clancy story. In any good Clancy story, the CIA agents and US politicians are clearly the "good guys" doing right by king and country. I could see a Section 31 show where the ship/agents view themselves this way as well and perhaps even justify crossing moral lines "for the good of the Federation." Yet it could be interesting to see this worldview through a modern lens where perhaps not all of their actions are as objectively "good" or righteous as their belief/intentions. The interplay between the ideal vs reality of what they do might make for a somewhat darker, but quite interesting Trek series.

My problem is that I have no interest in watching a Star Trek show about politics or the morals (or lack thereof) of some clandestine organization that considers themselves above the law.
 
My problem is that I have no interest in watching a Star Trek show about politics or the morals (or lack thereof) of some clandestine organization that considers themselves above the law.
Don't see that is a problem. IDIC after all.
 
When asked this week about the status of Section 31’s development in an interview with Sonequa Martin Green and himself on Deadline’s Hero Nation podcast about the new season of Discovery, Alex Kurtzman responded:

“Alex Kurtzman” said:
Yes. We’re at a very exciting place. I can’t tell you anything yet, but it’s still very much alive.

Between this answer from Kurtzman, and its inclusion in the recent CBS Productions press release from October, I’m glad to keep seeing it mentioned as forthcoming.
 
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When asked this week about the status of Section 31’s development in an interview with Sonequa Martin Green and himself on Deadline’s Hero Nation podcast about the new season of Discovery, Alex Kurtzman responded:



Between this answer from Kurtzman, and its inclusion in the recent CBS Productions press release from October, I’m glad to keep seeing it mentioned as forthcoming.
I'm sure that years ago they said Section 31 will begin production when Discovery finishes, using that team and those soundstages.

Or it may have been internet speculation, who knows anymore.
 
I'm sure that years ago they said Section 31 will begin production when Discovery finishes, using that team and those soundstages.

Or it may have been internet speculation, who knows anymore.

‪‪I’m pretty sure that was speculation, but based on real information.

I’m fairly certain there was nothing announced about them waiting for Discovery to end, but Kurtzman did tell Variety in an interview last February that Section 31 was still in development, but made clear that the five series currently in production were very likely all the Star Trek shows that will be coming out until one or more of the shows runs its course.

‪‪I remember reading a bunch of speculation it was referring to Picard, not Discovery, ending, since people had assumed they would be wrapping up Picard after Season 3, due to Sir Patrick’s age.
 
All this retconning was just to inject some more soap opera into the storylines. There's no actual "Spock" about which any of this was "later discovered."
 
I'd rather a Section 31 series tie into the series that created Section 31 in the first place and the only series that it makes sense to have it in. DS9 obviously. Go down the route of Bashir being the reluctant head of 31.
 
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