Had to think about "ONI", but my brain figured it out.
And poking around I discovered the existence of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
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And poking around I discovered the existence of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
There are 18 federal level agencies that make up the United States of America's intelligence community. The idea that the Federation and Starfleet have like 2 is laughably absurd and shows a limited understanding of intelligence or it's use to governments.Had to think about "ONI", but my brain figured it out.
And poking around I discovered the existence of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
I was thinking something similar. I haven't seen this much leather since Farscape, and Farscape is probably much better written.
Not if it's Peacekeeper Wars.
I liked PK Wars. Was it rushed? A little, but it got off the ground after a cancellation/fan campaign.
I don't like it's writing. It has some distractingly bad scenes. It kills off characters unnecessarily.
It was an odd duck after a tense season.
More like AliExpress
I like PK Wars. I mean I thought it sucked a certain someone died, but I thought it ended the series pretty well.
The release date is January 24th, 2025. Bring it!
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I was just happy to not be stuck with that 4th season ending.
IDK that it's laughably absurd that the Federation only has two intelligence agencies that we've encountered, particularly given the level of integration between civilian and "military" functions present in the Federation compared to the highly fractured and often redundant IC and LE structure.
The UK only four full agencies and a similar number of support agencies that are directly accountable to Parliament, but none of protagonists would have any reason to encounter or refer to the latter group, and Starfleet appears to operate on the early 20th century model where the "field operations" functions of Defence Intelligence are merged with the others rather than operating separately, bringing it down to three by comparison.
Germany has 3: external, internal, military.
Starfleet has 3 seemingly independent ones that we know of: Starfleet Intelligence, Internal Affairs, Section 31.
Worf said 31 is part of SI. Sloan said IA and 31 are branches of SI. So SI is the overarching organization, and its subbranches include IA and 31, perhaps also Temporal Investigations.
How many more would they need?
Starfleet has 3 seemingly independent ones that we know of: Starfleet Intelligence, Internal Affairs, Section 31.
Worf said 31 is part of SI. Sloan said IA and 31 are branches of SI. So SI is the overarching organization, and its subbranches include IA and 31, perhaps also Temporal Investigations.
How many more would they need?
But Section 31 is the only one allowed to be evil.
Germany has 3: external, internal, military.
Starfleet has 3 seemingly independent ones that we know of: Starfleet Intelligence, Internal Affairs, Section 31.
Worf said 31 is part of SI. Sloan said IA and 31 are branches of SI. So SI is the overarching organization, and its subbranches include IA and 31, perhaps also Temporal Investigations.
How many more would they need?
Starfleet Intelligence seems to combine elements of both External and Military Intelligence.
Starfleet Security at least on occasion appears to cover Internal, with input from Internal Affairs (which may be the same department as the Starfleet Inspector General and is certainly focused directly on Starfleet personnel specifically. They likely also cooperate with (the) Federation Security (Agency) on both domestic intelligence and security matters as needed.
S31 to the extent that it was ever an official organisation/sub-department strikes me as something similar to Mission Impossible's IMF or the IRL division of the CIA known by various names including the Special Activities Division.
Given that the Temporal Investigations agents we've seen wore civilian clothing and were a clear homage to Mulder & Scully of the X-Files, fictional civilian investigators, I'd be inclined to place the DTI as a (semi-autonomous) branch of Federation Security, rather than under Starfleet Security and particularly Starfleet Intelligence.
150+ member worlds and there's only 2? I find that odd.
I'm not expecting it to be like the US but only 2 strains credulity for me.
At the very least it is odd the only intelligence agencies we've heard of are directly connected to Starfleet. Starfleet Intelligence being the main intelligence division of Starfleet and Section 31 supposedly originating from the Starfleet Charter. Doesn't the Federation government have its own civilian intelligence agency?
Trek Core says "Humberly González as the Deltan Melle" and "Sven Ruygrok is the Vulcan (or Romulan?) nicknamed Fuzz"
Some cool names. The actors, that is.
The shows live on Starfleet as the only way. It's a consistently repeated line that the best life in Star Trek's future is being in Starfleet, being a captain, effecting change, and not being off a starship.
It's interesting and sometimes very myopic view.
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