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Seasons 1 and 2 were good but couldn't stand the MacGuffin Red Angel

urrutiap

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Im finally done with Seasons 1 and 2. They were good but the whole they spent too much time in both seasons dealing with the MacGuffin Red Angel. that and they spent too much time focusing on Tilly. Meanwhile that black dude and the Asian guy ended up like they were the silent new Sulu and Chekov pilots for the Discovery ship
 
Im finally done with Seasons 1 and 2. They were good but the whole they spent too much time in both seasons dealing with the MacGuffin Red Angel. that and they spent too much time focusing on Tilly. Meanwhile that black dude and the Asian guy ended up like they were the silent new Sulu and Chekov pilots for the Discovery ship
Well, Bryce and Rhys were the silent guys. They are not mains.

And the Red Angel was nowhere in Season 1. So...confused.
 
[QUOTE="urrutiap, post: 14788252, member: 75359"that black dude and the Asian guy

Yeah..... I'm already done with anyone who can't be bothered to remember a name and just uses their skincolor or ethnic background to describe them. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]
well excuse me bub but no one ever said their names during season 1 anyway. Plus those two characters never talked so they're pretty much the new Chekov and Sulu pilots in Discovery anyway.

Besides they probably get to do something useful in Season 3 and 4 anyway?
 
Excuse me but I have watched both Season 1 and 2. Both shows involved the mysterious Red Angel which was the show's on and off MacGuffin. That and Spock. Then Season 2 turning Leland into a typical cliche of a shady secret ops character turning more "evil" by being possessed by evil sentient nanbots A.I. where the AI is trying to rule the Galaxy yada yada. That crap I've seen in like a dozen sci Fi movies before.

hope Seasons 3 and 4 get better in Discovery. that and I need to get in on Strange New Worlds Season 1

Well, Bryce and Rhys were the silent guys. They are not mains.

And the Red Angel was nowhere in Season 1. So...confused.
 
well excuse me bub but no one ever said their names during season 1 anyway.
Pretty sure they did. Regardless, the S2 premiere (which you must have seen) has a scene where both characters literally state their names directly to the camera.
Both shows involved the mysterious Red Angel which was the show's on and off MacGuffin.
No. The Red Angel is not introduced until the S2 premiere.
 
who frikkin cares. The Red Angel was still the frikkin MacGuffin of the show. it was interesting til it was revealed it was the mother supposedly. what bothers me a little about that is how did the mother not even know about the signals anyway? Either she was lying or that she really didn't know
 
what bothers me a little about that is how did the mother not even know about the signals anyway? Either she was lying or that she really didn't know
That bothered me a lot. Except for when Spock was a kid, all the time the Red Angel showed up to help Michael, it was actually Michael herself in the second suit. Their whole plan was based on the idea that if Michael was about to die, the Red Angel would show up, they were almost completely wrong to think that, and no one noticed that they were just lucky that they misread the evidence but still drew a correct conclusion because there was a second Red Angel (who was actually the first Red Angel).
 
besides the Red Angel and Spock MacGuffin story arcs, I'm kind of getting used to the Klingon's new look for the show. Bad enough I had to deal with the Klingon's new changed looks in the Enterprise show and in Star Trek Into Darkness
 
arent the Klingon's war ships based on their bird of prey or whatever? Wouldn't they have at least recognized one of the red signals resembling a war bird of some kind?
 
That bothered me a lot. Except for when Spock was a kid, all the time the Red Angel showed up to help Michael, it was actually Michael herself in the second suit. Their whole plan was based on the idea that if Michael was about to die, the Red Angel would show up, they were almost completely wrong to think that, and no one noticed that they were just lucky that they misread the evidence but still drew a correct conclusion because there was a second Red Angel (who was actually the first Red Angel).
Yeah, the whole time travel aspect definitely through the arc for a loop.
 
Macguffin isn't a dirty word it's tried and true. Don't just go repeating it because you saw it in an article somewhere.

Season 2 is pretty excellent.
 
well ANYWAYZ

I hope Season 3 gets better since Burnham and the rest of the Discovery gang are in the far future. Isn't Seeason 3 or 4 the one that involves the Burn or whatever the heck they have to deal with?
 
well ANYWAYZ

I hope Season 3 gets better since Burnham and the rest of the Discovery gang are in the far future. Isn't Seeason 3 or 4 the one that involves the Burn or whatever the heck they have to deal with?
The move to the 32nd century has more to do with appearances than anything. It's all the future, so much of context is in fan's heads. The real changes in Discovery happened because of the new showrunner.
 
The Red Angel was one of those things that just makes no sense and is a great example of why setting this show in the 23rd century was nonsensical.

We just gloss over in the show that... humans built that. With 23rd century technology.

They shouldn't even need ships anymore. Just build Red Angel suits. The Federation becomes unstoppable.
 
The Red Angel was one of those things that just makes no sense and is a great example of why setting this show in the 23rd century was nonsensical.

We just gloss over in the show that... humans built that. With 23rd century technology.

They shouldn't even need ships anymore. Just build Red Angel suits. The Federation becomes unstoppable.
The time suit was a prototype, and there was only one. It wasnt perfected and wasn't standard issue. Then it was lost.

There are other examples of lost technology, like Ira Graves brain uploading technology, or about 30 in Voyager, I'm sure I'm just scraping the surface.
 
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