Seasons 1 & 2 Unwatchable?
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I think a lot of series first seasons the actors and writers are finding their feet and it is good to see the progression through the years. I wouldn't say they were unwatchable but just not as good as later years.
ya I just finished season 6 and i have to say its not my cup of tea at all. I mean i'll but up with alot of Picard but that episode where he fell in love made me cringe so bad. Its possibly nostalgia but i love the first 2 seasons, they are rough around the edges for sure, fairly wooden. But fantastic in terms of expanding the realms of what is considered life, and how we need to think objectively about things. and come on Giant space jellyfish? what more could you want?
Well, he is French.
It definitely felt like the show had.... I don't know, a 'scope' in it's first two seasons that gradually got erroded away. Even as the individual storylines (arguably) got better and better in years 3, 4 and 5, they seemed to lose some of the early ambition that pulsed through the first couple seasons.
6 and 7 do have some great moments, but I find them harder to watch because there *is* the unfortunate feeling that they knew the show was ending and that they were just treading water until they got upgraded to the big screen. Which, of course, was exactly the case.
Forget da Blu I'm rewatching season 2 on DVD right now and The Child wasn't that bad to start a series off with!
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You can get all sevens season for $200 dollars now. I paid $60 for each season when released.
But when you've spent so much time collecting them as sound recordings, videoing them from the tv, official VHS tapes and then DVDs it's so hard to go out and get them one more time! When will it ever end?
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Talk about a deep discount: the complete box set of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" on Blu-ray has plummeted to just $159 ahead of the June release date! If you've been waiting to buy the series in high definition, there's no better time than now!
Season 1 is hilarious 80s comedy, it never fails to entertain with its outrageous cheese so hardly unwatchable unlike season 1 of DS9 which is a snooze fest or the entirey of Voyager. Season 2 picks up substantially, but it's kind of boring sans the liberal amounts of gorgonzola in Season 1. There's some superior sci fi, superior as in pure sci fi, it's not watered down, like the one, I think it's Measure of a Man where Data's rights are scrutinised (dull episode in a way but rewarding rather than entertaining with some great speeches from Picard). Q Who is fantastic, the smug federation get their asses handed to them by the borg, Q really comes into his own as a character here and there's also Time Squared, which is full of tension and coldness, basically they're trying to figure out an anomaly but it really gets to the heart of Trek as a science based exploration show.
I thought she was very good in Elementary, Dear Data and Peak Performance.
Seasons 1 & 2 are my favorites. Yes, I went there.
They contain more swashbuckling adventure, more emotion, and more fun than the brooding future noir stories of seasons 3-7. They are closer in tone to both the TOS and it's films than the later seasons.
The social messages are far easier to digest in the first two seasons because the show is campier, so the viewer doesn't feel like they are being preached at as much. It's like Growing Pains in space and Picard is Jason Sever. It's an idealistic view of the world...TNG, much like a sitcom, was never conceived as a realistic view of the world. It's an aspirational view of society that nobody could ever possibly live up to. Picard can't possibly be right all the time, yet he always is! It becomes a problem (in Season 3 and beyond) when it starts taking itself too seriously.
Seasons 1 & 2 are a 1980s style show through and through. It's the A-team, it's Knight Rider, it's Highway to Heaven. If you hate typical 80s style shows, you will hate the first two seasons. I think a lot of critics came to this show in later seasons or after the show had left the air. You are more predisposed to like the later seasons and DS9 because they are darker and grittier(like modern shows), so everything that came before you can't accept.
TNG was not made for a Millennial geek audience ( you guys have NuTrek). It was made for mainstream audiences of the time. You don't like seasons 1 & 2...your opinion is valid, but the show was not made for you.
I've seen a lot of comments by people on this board and elsewhere, that proclaim nobody actually liked the first two seasons when they originally aired. The only reason people watched was because this was the first new Trek show in 20 years, they say. Well there are a lot of revivals to well loved shows that come and go without much success at all. If nobody liked this show they would have stopped watching sometime during the first season but that didn't happen. The ratings were fairly steady and the show was considered a success. It was a syndicated dramatic show premiering at a time when audiences were not used to watching this type of show in syndication.
Yes, the ratings were higher in later seasons, but most popular shows take a few seasons to build their peak viewership.
They contain more swashbuckling adventure, more emotion, and more fun than the brooding future noir stories of seasons 3-7. They are closer in tone to both the TOS and it's films than the later seasons.
The social messages are far easier to digest in the first two seasons because the show is campier, so the viewer doesn't feel like they are being preached at as much. It's like Growing Pains in space and Picard is Jason Sever. It's an idealistic view of the world...TNG, much like a sitcom, was never conceived as a realistic view of the world. It's an aspirational view of society that nobody could ever possibly live up to. Picard can't possibly be right all the time, yet he always is! It becomes a problem (in Season 3 and beyond) when it starts taking itself too seriously.
Seasons 1 & 2 are a 1980s style show through and through. It's the A-team, it's Knight Rider, it's Highway to Heaven. If you hate typical 80s style shows, you will hate the first two seasons. I think a lot of critics came to this show in later seasons or after the show had left the air. You are more predisposed to like the later seasons and DS9 because they are darker and grittier(like modern shows), so everything that came before you can't accept.
TNG was not made for a Millennial geek audience ( you guys have NuTrek). It was made for mainstream audiences of the time. You don't like seasons 1 & 2...your opinion is valid, but the show was not made for you.
I've seen a lot of comments by people on this board and elsewhere, that proclaim nobody actually liked the first two seasons when they originally aired. The only reason people watched was because this was the first new Trek show in 20 years, they say. Well there are a lot of revivals to well loved shows that come and go without much success at all. If nobody liked this show they would have stopped watching sometime during the first season but that didn't happen. The ratings were fairly steady and the show was considered a success. It was a syndicated dramatic show premiering at a time when audiences were not used to watching this type of show in syndication.
Yes, the ratings were higher in later seasons, but most popular shows take a few seasons to build their peak viewership.
I can see how season 4 and 5 are deemed better than season 1 and 2, but 7 - really?
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