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Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

If what they say is true, and they do scour the boards, I want CBS to know this.

Make Deep Space Nine in HD. Make it, and we will buy it. That I promise you.

Aside from that, I would have liked to have seen this so called super awesome special feature which was teased weeks ago and promised here, but oh well.
 
I completely agree. DS9 would look amazing in HD and will definitely buy all 7 seasons if/when it's released in HD.


My guess for the special feature is it's going to be some brand new bloopers or deleted scenes they found while going through the footage, as was mentioned in the latest installment of the interview.
 
If these are one of the boards CBS check, then I have to say here that I would love it if there were isolated scores on the TNG Season 3 set. It's not that hard to do, and how great would it be to hear the score in context for Yesterday's Enterprise, or BOBW, among many others.

Also, DS9 in HD, please. Shut up and take my money, CBS.
 
Aftter reading the interview I'm still left with a question. Are there two teams working on the visuals or are there two teams remastering and assembling the episodes?
 
I'm not sure what you guys are on about regarding the secret reveal. FrontierTrek has consistently said in advance and throughout that the interview would only hint at it, not reveal it. There was no promise to reveal it in the interview.
 
Scotty said:
Aftter reading the interview I'm still left with a question. Are there two teams working on the visuals or are there two teams remastering and assembling the episodes?
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Both - they are completely independent teams. The only time they will share things is if there are common elements that can be swapped between seasons

Sho said:
I'm not sure what you guys are on about regarding the secret reveal. FrontierTrek has consistently said in advance and throughout that the interview would only hint at it, not reveal it. There was no promise to reveal it in the interview.
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Right! Just hints, CBS want to leave some surprises!
 
As for the question of DS9 on HD, I think if I had to pick just one Star Trek show to be remastered, it would be that one. In terms of visual artistry and production value it's when the franchise hit its peak. There are so many incredible vistas in those episodes, and heck even the beautiful standing sets and the way they were lit, seeing that material with the clarity of TNG-R would just be amazing. There is no question I would buy it, even if the price was substantially higher than TNG-R to justify the greater workload and smaller economy of scale.
 
Fair enough, you did just say hints. 3 weeks of guessing and waiting skewed my expectations.
 
Well, I'd buy Voyager, too ... but yeah, DS9 comes first on my wishlist.
 
What I liked to see is that all the vfx elements from the motion pictures have been saved as well. Is the shot of the Klingon ship from heart of glory from Tmp? If so even those elements have survived!

Paramount did an utterly awful job with the movie blurays. I would like CBS to go do them right; remaster them at 4k+, recreate the vfx from the original elements so they all look as good as tng-HD (remove matt lines etc) and keep the grain intact - don't scrub it and make it look awful like the 5 min job paramount did.
 
Sho said:
Well, I'd buy Voyager, too ... but yeah, DS9 comes first on my wishlist.
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Yeah, I don't think I could even say this. I'd watch it. Maybe rent it. Maybe buy some of the latter seasons but Voyager is just a show I watch when its on. And even then Im more likely to change the channel than watch it all.

DS9 on the other hand, I go back and rewatch that all the time, just like TNG.

I'd rather they release Ent. I'd love to watch Season 4 in Hi-Def, especially if they give it a generous special feature treatment (which considering its HD already, is really all they need to do).
 
Flake said:
What I liked to see is that all the vfx elements from the motion pictures have been saved as well. Is the shot of the Klingon ship from heart of glory from Tmp? If so even those elements have survived!
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Yep. That's the original miniature photography done at Apogee in 1979 by Doug Smith under the supervision of John Dykstra. Notice also that they shot against black instead of bluescreen like ILM preferred. They over-exposed the model to create a matte pass -- essentially a luma key instead of a chroma key.
 
Dac said:
Sho said:
Well, I'd buy Voyager, too ... but yeah, DS9 comes first on my wishlist.
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Yeah, I don't think I could even say this. I'd watch it. Maybe rent it. Maybe buy some of the latter seasons but Voyager is just a show I watch when its on. And even then Im more likely to change the channel than watch it all.

DS9 on the other hand, I go back and rewatch that all the time, just like TNG.

I'd rather they release Ent. I'd love to watch Season 4 in Hi-Def, especially if they give it a generous special feature treatment (which considering its HD already, is really all they need to do).
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ENT would be very easy to release on Blu-Ray since it was already filmed with HD cameras.

I can see CBS releasing ENT after TNG and seeing how well it sells before moving on to DS9 if they decide to do that.

In they end, they probably already have a very good idea how popular each show is since they know how well each show sold on DVD.
 
Maxwell Everett said:
Yep. That's the original miniature photography done at Apogee in 1979 by Doug Smith under the supervision of John Dykstra. Notice also that they shot against black instead of bluescreen like ILM preferred. They over-exposed the model to create a matte pass -- essentially a luma key instead of a chroma key.
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So paramount still owns the movie rights and CBS the television rights, correct? Meaning, there is no chance Paramount would ever do such a thing?
 
NewHorizon said:
Maxwell Everett said:
Yep. That's the original miniature photography done at Apogee in 1979 by Doug Smith under the supervision of John Dykstra. Notice also that they shot against black instead of bluescreen like ILM preferred. They over-exposed the model to create a matte pass -- essentially a luma key instead of a chroma key.
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So paramount still owns the movie rights and CBS the television rights, correct? Meaning, there is no chance Paramount would ever do such a thing?
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I think the most we could hope for would be new 4K scans of the cut negatives from each film like they did with Star Trek II. The only reason they're doing this for TNG is that nothing was assembled optically on film.
 
Maxwell Everett said:
Notice also that they shot against black instead of bluescreen like ILM preferred. They over-exposed the model to create a matte pass -- essentially a luma key instead of a chroma key.
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Ah, that's clever. I wondered what that was for. :)

It's great that the separate layers from the movie FX all survived on film. Is this how they originally used these shots for TNGs broadcast, or were the shots simply taken from the final cut film back then?


Dream said:
I'd rather they release Ent. I'd love to watch Season 4 in Hi-Def, especially if they give it a generous special feature treatment (which considering its HD already, is really all they need to do).
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As I understand it, many (if not all) of Enterprise's FX shots were rendered at 720p or lower, at least for the first three seasons. Fine for HD broadcast, but not quite up to Blu-ray standards.* Mind you, if Eden FX (and whatever other FX studios were involved) still have the files, it wouldn't be too big a job to re-render all those shots. Certainly an easier job than doing DS9!


* This same issue didn't stop Firefly from getting a Blu-ray release, mind you.
 
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