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Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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The digital matte is repeated in Code of Honor.
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

The digital matte is repeated in Code of Honor.

You're talking about this, right?

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x01/farpoint_hd_862.jpg

The funny thing is, the original miniature element was found and used in "Heart of Glory"... but they didn't bother replacing it in "Encounter at Farpoint" or "Code of Honor"!

That matte looks worse than the original shot in the DVD. Only time so far where I thought that.
 
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I skipped to disc six and watched "Conspiracy" and "The Neutral Zone" Both looked exquisite. I had forgotten about all the gore in "Conspiracy" but I still thought it was a good episode.

Seeing it again I wanted to see more of Walker Keel.

There were some pretty bad audio sync issues in the second half of "The Neutral Zone" but I am conceding that I do not have the best Blu-Ray player or sound system.

This is going to be a fun re-watch.
 
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Speaking of which, with a stellar fragment about to destroy the ship and the thousands of people onboard, why didn't anybody think to simply blast through the wall or giant glass window with a phaser to get to the Engineering controls??
Or heck, just beam into there...
 
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Watched Naked Now last night too.

I was a little taken aback by a boy's decision to destroy a Federation starship, even an empty one.
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

The digital matte is repeated in Code of Honor.

You're talking about this, right?

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x01/farpoint_hd_862.jpg

The funny thing is, the original miniature element was found and used in "Heart of Glory"... but they didn't bother replacing it in "Encounter at Farpoint" or "Code of Honor"!

That matte looks worse than the original shot in the DVD. Only time so far where I thought that.

I think it looks terrible, too.
 
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I don't have a super fancy 7.1 system or anything, but I did watch a bit of Farpoint again and noticed Picard's captain's log entries were for some reason really echoey and concentrated only in the front, which was odd and which I don't remember from the sampler.

But the rest of the dialogue sounded fine to me.

The Naked Now looked and sounded great though. I thought I was used to the HD picture already, but the way these colors pop off the screen still completely blows my mind. After all these years, it's just SO damn weird to see the show and characters in such sharp detail.

The fact it looks like it was shot yesterday... but still has the cheesy storytelling and dated hairstyles of the 80s, is just very odd and is going to take some getting used to, I think.


BTW, whatever happened to that goofy asian engineer Shimodo? He would have been fun to keep around! :D

Never thought I'd see TNG described as "cheesy." Wow.
 
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An additional 7 were in the can by the time the series premiered on September 28th.

Which would give them nine completed episodes when you factor in Farpoint, plus "in the can" means completely done and ready for airing. I'm sure they probably had some that were shot and still waiting for post-production processing.

The ratings did continue to get better the longer the show ran, but it was an unqualified hit right out of the gate and never lost steam from a ratings perspective. :techman:

I was 16 when TNG first came out. I remember watching the first night.

TNG, in my mind, was a highly anticipated, uncertain experiment. There was tremendous doubt about whether or not it would work, if there could be Trek without Kirk-Spock-McCoy, and if there could be a "new" Enterprise.

I can't imagine it being an "unqualified hit right out of the gate" as you say. It became that, but early on, it was an unknown. Our look back is colored by all that has come since TNG first debuted; it may be hard to remember what it was like when all there was of Trek was TOS and the TOS movies.
 
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I can't imagine it being an "unqualified hit right out of the gate" as you say. It became that, but early on, it was an unknown. Our look back is colored by all that has come since TNG first debuted; it may be hard to remember what it was like when all there was of Trek was TOS and the TOS movies.

http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/syndicated_1987/

TV Obscurities said:
None of the syndicated programming premiering in the fall of 1987 was as highly anticipated as the two-hour premiered of Paramount Television’s Star Trek: The Next Generation. Proving that within the television industry you can go home again, Gene Roddenberry brought his unique vision of the future back to the small screen, starting the week of September 28th (because syndicated programs air at different times on different days in different areas of the country there is no set airdate).

Overall, in Nielsen’s fifteen major markets, the premiere averaged a 21 share and, more importantly, an impressive 300% improvement in share over the comparable year-ago numbers in those same markets. Ratings for the series were so good, in fact, that Paramount renewed Star Trek: The Next Generation for a full second season in November of 1987.

An unqualified hit right out of the gate. :techman:
 
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A full second season that was cut short because of a writers strike. Another thing I want to see as part of this new in depth documentary, that I am praising to no end because it was just so good, is a footage filled discussion on the writers strike (Heck, that can be part 2 if they split it in parts like they did here) and how that impacted the season. I've heard stories of them using plots from Star Trek Phase II and various reasons for the clip show, but if this Doc is allowing them to go in depth, than do it. Yeah it might be stuff we've heard before, but there was a lot from the documentary last night that I hadn't heard before so indulge me. :)
 
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Has anyone noticed a problem with the opening credits? The Enterprise seems to move in and out of, well, a dullness, the brightness of the ship changes. The names of the cast lack brightness as well; the picture gets brighter as the Enterprise moves into shot after Wil Wheaton's name. Anyone else seeing this?
 
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A full second season that was cut short because of a writers strike. Another thing I want to see as part of this new in depth documentary, that I am praising to no end because it was just so good, is a footage filled discussion on the writers strike (Heck, that can be part 2 if they split it in parts like they did here) and how that impacted the season. I've heard stories of them using plots from Star Trek Phase II and various reasons for the clip show, but if this Doc is allowing them to go in depth, than do it. Yeah it might be stuff we've heard before, but there was a lot from the documentary last night that I hadn't heard before so indulge me. :)

The Child was originally written for Phase II.
 
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I can't imagine it being an "unqualified hit right out of the gate" as you say. It became that, but early on, it was an unknown. Our look back is colored by all that has come since TNG first debuted; it may be hard to remember what it was like when all there was of Trek was TOS and the TOS movies.

http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/syndicated_1987/

TV Obscurities said:
None of the syndicated programming premiering in the fall of 1987 was as highly anticipated as the two-hour premiered of Paramount Television’s Star Trek: The Next Generation. Proving that within the television industry you can go home again, Gene Roddenberry brought his unique vision of the future back to the small screen, starting the week of September 28th (because syndicated programs air at different times on different days in different areas of the country there is no set airdate).

Overall, in Nielsen’s fifteen major markets, the premiere averaged a 21 share and, more importantly, an impressive 300% improvement in share over the comparable year-ago numbers in those same markets. Ratings for the series were so good, in fact, that Paramount renewed Star Trek: The Next Generation for a full second season in November of 1987.

An unqualified hit right out of the gate. :techman:

I don't see it that way. I see it as highly anticipated, heavily promoted, but not an "unqualified hit." Out of the gate, it was a huge unknown, with an uncertain future - even the actors knew that.

It was a big, high profile gamble. That's why the debut numbers were so high. There were many questions swirling around it, many doubts, many questions.

TNG stumbled, soared and fell through its first two seasons; it became a hit in its third season, as it found its own footing, came out of the writer's strike-affected second season, and outlived its predecessor.
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

A full second season that was cut short because of a writers strike. Another thing I want to see as part of this new in depth documentary, that I am praising to no end because it was just so good, is a footage filled discussion on the writers strike (Heck, that can be part 2 if they split it in parts like they did here) and how that impacted the season. I've heard stories of them using plots from Star Trek Phase II and various reasons for the clip show, but if this Doc is allowing them to go in depth, than do it. Yeah it might be stuff we've heard before, but there was a lot from the documentary last night that I hadn't heard before so indulge me. :)

The Child was originally written for Phase II.

I know, and to go more in depth on your sentence is something I'm finding myself looking forward to. If they don't do it, fine, no loss but it would be a nice wish for Season 2.
 
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I don't see it that way. I see it as highly anticipated, heavily promoted, but not an "unqualified hit." Out of the gate, it was a huge unknown, with an uncertain future - even the actors knew that.

It was a big, high profile gamble. That's why the debut numbers were so high. There were many questions swirling around it, many doubts, many questions.

TNG stumbled, soared and fell through its first two seasons; it became a hit in its third season, as it found its own footing, came out of the writer's strike-affected second season, and outlived its predecessor.

You just don't want to be wrong, but the numbers simply state that you are (unless you can produce something that says differently). You don't renew the most expensive series, which is millions of dollars over budget at that point according to the documentary, on TV six to eight weeks into its first season unless it is pulling in exceptional numbers.

Just because the first two seasons aren't up to your standards doesn't mean the series wasn't pulling good numbers every week. Hell the article I quoted said some network stations decided to leave TNG in primetime over network offerings.

I'm a huge TOS guy, but that doesn't change the fact that TNG was pulling great ratings right from the beginning.
 
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Absolutely loved this shot from Naked Now:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x03/nakednow_hd_206.jpg

Looks as good as any effect from the recent Trek movie.

Rats. I thought you were linking a pic of Yar's wiggling hiney...

thumb_nakednow_hd_264.jpg


There's a larger version of the pic, and lovely it is too.....:techman:
 
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