Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

[Ysmalari]

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Well I only had time to watch EaF last night but I've got to say WOW! The picture quality is amazing, it looks like a newly released show again; I'm fortunate (or not) enough to not have surround sound at home so I'm not affected by the reported sound issues.

Looking forward to watching the documentaries tonight and working my way through the series again.

Really impressed

 

[tomalak301]

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Finished watching the Documentary and that was some really great stuff. Some quick thoughts before I go to bed:

-Denise Crosby sounded really negative throughout this whole thing. She didn't think the show would work, she was being so judgmental, and then it just came down to the fact that she wasn't having a good time anymore so that's why she left. Since this is part of a much larger special, I may have to hold judgement for now, but it does make me wonder what changed her mind. Was it greed, and the whole "This kid is popular now I want to hang out with him" mentality? I mean for someone who seemed to hate her time on the series, to come back and do 3 more episodes and then 2 Documentaries covering the entire franchise almost seems really selfish to me.

-Really loved the original make up/costume shots. There was some really bad ideas thrown around at the time, like Geordi's hair, some of Troi's hairstyle, and pretty much all the original ideas for Data. They wanted a pink, orange eye/yellow eye look? Good thing they went in a different direction.

Really looking forward to Season 2's version of this documentary. I have this feeling, based on the trailer we saw, that we might finally set the record straight as to why McFadden left. Also is Diana Maulder still alive? I would love to get an interview from her in the next release, if she's willing. This doc has gone really in depth and to go in depth on Kate Pulaski would be a thing to behold.

 

[Angel4576]

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I'm sure that previously I've heard that she wanted to leave to pursue a movie career. Obviously this didn't really pan out, and then with TNG getting really popular in the third season I imagine she realized that she'd made a mistake, hence her attempts to get back on the show.

Diana Muldaur - that would be interesting, to see whether she'd participate. I don't think either side were particularly happy with the character at the end of the second season. Muldaur cited a lack of creativity and invention, whilst the production cited a lack of chemistry with the rest of the cast. To be fair, the second season was blighted by the writers strike, so a lack of creativity can be forgiven here I think. In terms of the chemistry, a large part of that was down to the way the character was written. They wanted a female McCoy, cranky, and wanted the kind of relationship with Data that Bones had with Spock. Unfortunately it just came across as being mean-spirited, which meant the fans really didn't latch on to her at all. Personally, I think they were right to get Gates back.

I really do agree with your assessment of the value of these documentaries. At an hour and a half, and together with the half hour 'restoration' one as well, and the other goodies, you certainly get your money's worth here. I hope they keep these going all the way through the season sets.

 

[BillJ]

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I'm sure that previously I've heard that she wanted to leave to pursue a movie career. Obviously this didn't really pan out, and then with TNG getting really popular in the third season I imagine she realized that she'd made a mistake, hence her attempts to get back on the show.

TNG was incredibly popular here in the States right from the beginning. It was already considered a major hit by the time season three rolled around.

 

[Angel4576]

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I'm sure that previously I've heard that she wanted to leave to pursue a movie career. Obviously this didn't really pan out, and then with TNG getting really popular in the third season I imagine she realized that she'd made a mistake, hence her attempts to get back on the show.

TNG was incredibly popular here in the States right from the beginning. It was already considered a major hit by the time season three rolled around.

I think there must have been some doubt in the minds of the cast in the earlier days though. Patrick Stewart's been quite vocal about his 'living out of a suitcase' for the first year at least. It's also apparent from the new doc on the BDs that there was constant concern around whether or not they'd be able to recapture TOS's success.

 

[BillJ]

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I'm sure that previously I've heard that she wanted to leave to pursue a movie career. Obviously this didn't really pan out, and then with TNG getting really popular in the third season I imagine she realized that she'd made a mistake, hence her attempts to get back on the show.

TNG was incredibly popular here in the States right from the beginning. It was already considered a major hit by the time season three rolled around.

I think there must have been some doubt in the minds of the cast in the earlier days though. Patrick Stewart's been quite vocal about his 'living out of a suitcase' for the first year at least. It's also apparent from the new doc on the BDs that there was constant concern around whether or not they'd be able to recapture TOS's success.

You do realize probably the first ten or twelve episodes had been filmed by the time the series premiered in 1987?

Plus, Paramount wouldn't have allowed them to keep going over-budget if the show had been struggling in the ratings.

 

[cbspock]

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Be aware there are issues coming to the surface with the set..

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews072312.html


-Chris

 

[BillJ]

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Be aware there are issues coming to the surface with the set..

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews072312.html


-Chris

Already being discussed in the other thread.

 

[BillJ]

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Seems to be a bit of an audio sync issue in Hide and Q.

 

[BillJ]

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Audio on Haven is totally screwed-up, first two minutes everyone sounds like they're talking through a tin can.

EDIT: Apologies for the triple-post, just putting them out there as I'm watching the episodes.

In the same episode the audio in the holodeck scene between Riker and Troi seems to be pitched to high.

The audio in Haven is just a mess.

 

[Angel4576]

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You do realize probably the first ten or twelve episodes had been filmed by the time the series premiered in 1987?

Plus, Paramount wouldn't have allowed them to keep going over-budget if the show had been struggling in the ratings.

An additional 7 were in the can by the time the series premiered on September 28th.

Her latest comments on the situation from an interview with the official website back in March;

I was miserable. I couldn’t wait to get off that show. I was dying. This was not an overnight decision. I was grateful to have made that many episodes, but I didn’t want to spend the next six years going “Aye, aye, captain,” and standing there, in the same uniform, in the same position on the bridge. It just scared the hell out of me that this was what I was going to be doing for the next X-amount of years. I think you have to take your chances. I was really young. I didn’t have to make house payments or put kids through private school or support people. I was free to make those kinds of decisions. I’d been in acting school really dreaming of playing all kinds of different things. Whether it’ll happen or not, you don’t know, but you’ve got to give yourself a chance. God forbid you go through your life thinking, “What if?”

Sounds to me like a combination of frustration at the lack of perceived scope in her role, and a nervousness of tying herself down to a long-running gig.

 

[BillJ]

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An additional 7 were in the can by the time the series premiered on September 28th.

Which would give them nine completed episodes when you factor in Farpoint, plus "in the can" means completely done and ready for airing. I'm sure they probably had some that were shot and still waiting for post-production processing.

The ratings did continue to get better the longer the show ran, but it was an unqualified hit right out of the gate and never lost steam from a ratings perspective.

 

[Angel4576]

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An additional 7 were in the can by the time the series premiered on September 28th.

Which would give them nine completed episodes when you factor in Farpoint, plus "in the can" means completely done and ready for airing. I'm sure they probably had some that were shot and still waiting for post-production processing.

I'm not sure. I know that the following episode, Hide & Q, has its filming dates starting on the 28th September, ie. the day of the premiere.

The ratings did continue to get better the longer the show ran, but it was an unqualified hit right out of the gate and never lost steam from a ratings perspective.

The only thing I could see with the ratings was that it takes an initial dip over the first 4/5 episodes, but then starts to increase again afterwards, through to the end of the season.

 

[Scotty]

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In addition to the authoring problems on the 7.1 mix, the DD 2.0 audiotrack of Encounter at Farpoint is also out of synch. So there's actually no good English language audiotrack for the pilot.

 

[BillJ]

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The only thing I could see with the ratings was that it takes an initial dip over the first 4/5 episodes, but then starts to increase again afterwards, through to the end of the season.

Which is completely normal for American TV.

 

[Kamdan]

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There's audio problems with the Star Trek TOS Blu-rays. Why don't they fix them too while they're at it with this set?

 

[BillJ]

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There's audio problems with the Star Trek TOS Blu-rays. Why don't they fix them too while they're at it with this set?

If there are problems, they're minor compared to the issues in this set. I've spun the TOS-R discs more times than I can count and nowhere have I noticed glitches as obvious as the ones in the set I'm currently watching.

 

[BillJ]

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Scene where Geordi and Data are walking down a corridor from The Big Goodbye, Data sounds like a damn chipmunk.

I gave the review sites a pass for missing the issues on Farpoint as that had been previously released. But I'm now questioning either their objectivity or their attention to detail, as the set is a mess even on stereo tracks.

 

[trekker670]

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I highly doubt these review sites went through all 26 episodes plus all the bonus materials scrutinizing every detail as we fans are in the process of doing. This is their job and they wont spend the better part of a week (8 hours per day, ~26 hours of material) on a single review that may earn the a few dollars in ad revenue. I can't say I blame them for missing the details since the major issues are in EaF and then mixed sporadically throughout the season.

 

[BillJ]

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I highly doubt these review sites went through all 26 episodes plus all the bonus materials scrutinizing every detail as we fans are in the process of doing. This is their job and they wont spend the better part of a week (8 hours per day, ~26 hours of material) on a single review that may earn the a few dollars in ad revenue. I can't say I blame them for missing the details since the major issues are in EaF and then mixed sporadically throughout the season.

Then they should've put a disclaimer at the beginning of their reviews stating they didn't actually watch the set. They damage their credibility by just parroting talking points from CBS.