Spoilers Season Finale Reveal!

[T'Bonz]

She did the right thing rescuing the Emperor. Starfleet should be about saving lives and reducing harm. Her later justifications about maybe getting intel on tactics is also valid.

In Burnham's own universe, perhaps. But in this case, Georgiou had accepted her fate in her own mirror universe. Bringing her back to the P.U. because Burnham was sad she lost her mommy-figure-mentor was really stupid. Georgiou had already proven her utter ruthlessness; did Burnham think of the consequences of what she was doing? Hey, I'm a gonna save and bring over a mini-Hitler-type to an unprepared Starfleet. Gah.

Burnham just wanted to save Georgiou THIS TIME, even though it was a totally different Georgiou. Where's the fucking logic in that? Sarek must be smacking himself upside the head; Burnham may be book smart but her logic leaves much to be desired.

 

[Longinus]

In Burnham's own universe, perhaps. But in this case, Georgiou had accepted her fate in her own mirror universe. Bringing her back to the P.U. because Burnham was sad she lost her mommy-figure-mentor was really stupid. Georgiou had already proven her utter ruthlessness; did Burnham think of the consequences of what she was doing? Hey, I'm a gonna save and bring over a mini-Hitler-type to an unprepared Starfleet. Gah.

Well she really couldn't expect the admiralty to put the said tyrant in the command of a starship, because that is clearly insane!

If you can, you should endeavour to save lives, even if the people being saved would be nasty sorts. I complained about Lorca leaving Mudd to the Klingons (when I thought he was a real SF captain) and I cannot really fault Burnham at saving the Emperor on the moral grounds.

 

[Midquest]

Burnham just wanted to save Georgiou THIS TIME, even though it was a totally different Georgiou. Where's the fucking logic in that? Sarek must be smacking himself upside the head; Burnham may be book smart but her logic leaves much to be desired.

Well, yes. A bad choice, and I think that's the point--Burnham, who has been emotionally restricted for most of her life, is discovering what love and emotion are, and she's screwing up as she figures that out. Her choice is entirely unsound tactically, but it's intensely human--and, I'd say, intensely Trek (so, yes, not a pragmatic choice at all, heh).

If my dead loved one showed up alive but nasty and violent, and then basically saved my life--well, knowing that my version of that person had been kind, a big part of me would believe that I could show them how to be a better person and that I could help them. So I totally agree with you that it was a terrible tactical move, but I find it pretty understandable. You don't do what Michael did if you don't have that foolishly Trekkian hope.

That said, the moment her dear departed captain is put in command, it does seem like a switch flips for Michael. We'll see tomorrow.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Don't get me wrong; I like Burnham. But she needs to learn to make some better decisions.

The thing I find confusing is SMG is a good actress. I really liked her in Walking Dead and had high hopes she'll bring the rain for Discovery. I can only conclude from this that the writers are having a difficult time writing for her character. I don't know if the fault lays squarely with their inability to do their jobs or that the character of Burnham is so broken that they've painted themselves into an impossible corner to write anything compelling for her. It's a bit of a noodle scratcher.

 

[Ithekro]

Guess there's no chance we'll be following her arc into a Federation penal colony...

With Starfleet understaffed following the war....no. There will be a lot of open billets for higher ranking officers and despite everything, she was a trained first officer.

 

[Refuge]

She was stripped of her rank.

 

[Mage]

She was stripped of her rank.

And then they unstrip it. Not that hard. And before you say that's not how it works in real life military..... tough. It's makebelieve, set in a fictional future with a fictional military-based institution. If they decide to give a fictional character her fictional rank back or even promote the f*** out of her, that is within the realm of fictional possibilty.

 

[Farscape One]

I just thought of something. The loss of all those officers during the war could explain the super quick pace of Kirk getting to the Captain's chair.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I just thought of something. The loss of all those officers during the war could explain the super quick pace of Kirk getting to the Captain's chair.

Yeah, but Lieutenant Kirk has to get over his PTSD following the death of half the crew on the Farragut, first.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Yeah, but Lieutenant Kirk has to get over his PTSD following the death of half the crew on the Farragut, first.

After that disaster Kirk'll be rotated shoreside, doing instructor work at the Academy. Pretty sure the cocky friend he'll meet there, and a certain blond lab technician (with a maybe-English accent and great abs) the friend hooks him up with, will be helping get Kirk back on his feet over the course of Season 2...

 

[Mudd]

Kirk's living in Iowa getting into bar fights over women.

 

[AndorianAle]

Kirk's living in Iowa getting into bar fights over women.

And farm animals.

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

And farm animals.

What happens in Des Moines stays in Des Moines.

 

[CorporalClegg]

That's impossible. Nothing happens in Des Moines.

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

That's impossible. Nothing happens in Des Moines.

OK, you got me on that one.

 

[picardjean-luc]

And farm animals.

 

[CorporalClegg]

So is like The Price is Right where I win for being closest?

 

[Mudd]

Should I spoiler-code this?

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[Gepard]

Really digging the aft view. Looks like they added another fin ("intercooler") to the bottom of the nacelles.

 

[Jeyl]

Looking good. That angle right before we cut to black is what truly sold it for me.

But they still gave her a window viewscreen... Dang it.