This has been the most taxing thing about this situation the toxic elements of the fanbase have felt validated and galvanised.
They're actually... Nazis who are murdering people??
It’s ok. He just needed to get in his faux concern.
Hi all. New here. I'm dreadfully saddened by SFA's cancellation; I was pleasantly surprised at how much I came to love the show and the characters as I continued through the season.
No More Classrooms! But one of your own criticisms was -
So which is it - Hardly any (not enough) classroom scenes, or no more (too many) classroom scenes?
"Good" and "mature" Star Trek is like defining obscenity; I can't actually define it but I know it when I see it.
And the sad reality is is that demanding Kurtzman be fired means no lessons will actually learn anything because no one will be around who made the mistakes. So, demanding firing and learning is an oxymoron.
Exactly what I said. No more classrooms, academies or anything remotely like it. It was a boring concept classroom instruction or just the kids and their romances. I want star trek not 90210.
This tells me you didn't watch much of it, nor did you ever watch 90210, or you'd know the comparison is utterly without merit.
I don't know what makes some people immune to stories about young people growing into themselves, but it's not age--I'm 54 and loved the show. I didn't love Enterprise, but you know what I never did? Make ridiculous comparisons to other shows with superficial resemblance to it. I just stopped watching it.
It was teenage kids and romance. So yeah 90210 or Dawson's Creek. That isn't star trek. I want exploration. Adventure. Not kids with their romances and "trauma". No fun at all. Boring.
I personally have no idea what to compare Starfleet Academy to, as I've never had much interest in series about young adults in training. Buffy's the best I can come up with, and it's been a while since that came out. Or the later years of Harry Potter maybe? Gen V?
What would a good comparison be?
What would a good comparison be?
Exactly.
Star Trek is about the human adventure and young people are are part of that. This 42 year old enjoyed much of the young people stories in this show.
I watched some episides of 90210
My sister was a huge fan. I also saw a couple Dawson's Creek. Yeah SFA was like them but tge writing was much more cringey.
Glad you guys enjoyed the show. I just outgrew that kind of stuff years ago. Im hoping for a much more serious and mature Trek.
Really? Like say TNG's Q-Who where after being Tractored, a Section caved out: returning fire after shields failed - and seeing the Cube still intact - does Picard order Warp 9 back to the Alpha quadrant?No.
The first order out of his mouth is:
"Conference!"
Yeah, I laughed out loud when he did that when I saw the episode first run because yeah to do it at that time wax ridiculous.
The Cube was 20% destroyed and was sitting there with minimal life support, with no signs that its condition was going to change any time soon. Their biggest concern at that time was whether an away team would be safe if they beamed over.
No.
Right they didn't have any idea of the power of the borg at that time. We can give them leeway on that decision.
You got hundreds of 32nd century Star Fleet Captains told that they are compelled to take at least a dozen of theses kids, and give them all the real life experience they need to become seduced by a lecherous salt vampire, until they grow up to be someone useful... But here's the Rub, these ships having been drawing crew from the War College for a century and why should anything else change, just because a kindergarten Teacher who can't find her shoes to save her life, is in the mood to conduct some crazy ass social studies experiment?
Ipso facto, after every one graduates, there's a mean spirited and very mercenary draft where the wheat is separated from the chaff.
Ipso facto, after every one graduates, there's a mean spirited and very mercenary draft where the wheat is separated from the chaff.
So are you complaining that Tron didn't watch enough SFA, or implying that they watched too much of it?
The people responsible for canceling it know why they canceled it. The people who will be responsible for greenlighting a new Star Trek show may or may not know what they will want out of that, but they'll try something eventually.
What we know and what we want doesn't factor into any of it.
I want the Archer the Legacy show or any show set in the 25th century. . Im going to write paramount. The head honcho himself. Im sure he'll listen. Im planning on sending an old school paper hand written letter. Wish me luck everyone!
This is the big one, I think - the franchise has become an emblem of corporate mishandling for many people.
Said it before but the marketing really didn't help this show either. None of it put across the show's stronger aspects - likeable characters, comedy, etc. All people had to go on was "they're trying to turn Star Trek into a YA CW drama now", which, after a decade of Star Trek being beaten into various shapes to fit various demographics, reads as unbelievably cynical.
Of course, anyone who gave the show a chance often found themselves pleasantly surprised, at least by the first half (for me personally, it went completely to shit in the usual way after around six episodes), but everything about the show's context in the position we're at with the franchise as a whole, and all its marketing, pretty much begged for a response of wary exasperation from fans.
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