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The Queen in Voyager said that she originated from Species 125 and that she was assimilated as a child. Did the Borg retroactively appoint a monarch, or was she speaking about her form at the time, much like how her current body is now human?
I'd like to think there's a way to "become" the queen should the need arise? I mean, last season when Seven plugs herself into the Queencell on the Artifact, and gets Queen powers...
The Borg have been known to create miniaturized collectives in the past when isolated, so what Seven did seemed be more along those lines. She had to be "plugged in" to accomplish it. What's happening to Jurati is more like possession, where the Queen is a separate consciousness seeking another form, and she's maintaining that continuity of self-awareness. I don't think Seven would have started missing Locutus like an ex had she remained attached to that cube, but who knows.
So Picard was called to deal with the Borg.
The Borg claimed peace but didn’t act like they were down for peace.
So Picard blew it all up .
Q brought Picard to evil future and left him there.
Picard figured out he has to correct the past .
But in the Past Q without powers ,but some times does, enlists Sung to kill Picard’s ancestor who finds life on her space trip. Q does not want ancestor to succeed.
Q now enlists Sung’s experiment to kill Picard as Borg enlists Sung to kill Picard.
Its a mess .
I say that the life found by Picard’s ancestor is the Q .and is their beginning .
Interesting to see Agnes fighting for Control against the borg Queen I wonder what's going to happen to her and how they'll stop the her total assimilation by the borg Queen to get back to their time in and fix the time line.And the changes that may happen.
The loneliness angle of the Borg is just lazy writing. I'm not bothered by that specific direction since star trek gave the borg a cute pomeranian makeover during First Contact by turning them into your average bwhahahahaha villains but I still expected something more thought provoking.
The loneliness angle of the Borg is just lazy writing. I'm not bothered by that specific direction since star trek gave the borg a cute pomeranian makeover during First Contact by turning them into your average bwhahahahaha villains but I still expected something more thought provoking.
Like what? Loneliness can drive a person insane. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered cruel.
More thought provoking than lonely? I can think of nothing more Star Trek than exploring inside an alien mind and finding something deeply relatable. Loneliness is a plague in 21st century culture and it can drive even the most stable to consider suicide. What else can it drive beings to do?
Loneliness crafting reprehensible villainy is totally valid and very Trekkian. Whether the execution of it works is subjective, and I'm not saying Star Trek: Picard as a television series does things "objectively" correctly. But for whatever it's worth, I don't think it's especially arguable that the gist of this isn't peak Trek tradition.
That said, I'm guessing it's just part of the equation. "Bullshit," the Borg Queen replies. Not because Agnes is wrong, but because she's overly focused enough on a single aspect for the Queen to evade the accusation.
"Loneliness + a push for perfection to attain everlasting perfected harmony." That's the big ticket.
Loneliness crafting reprehensible villainy is totally valid and very Trekkian. Whether the execution of it works is subjective, and I'm not saying Star Trek: Picard as a television series does things "objectively" correctly. But for whatever it's worth, I don't think it's especially arguable that the gist of this is peak Trek tradition.
None of this is peak Trek tradition. I would not hold it to such a standard.
It is however extremely timely in an error where suicide rates are crawling up, and afflicting younger and younger people because they feel so isolated and alone. I don't care if it is peak Trek. This is a story that is helpful in the now!
Jurati's comment to the Borg Queen from that clip is essentially the reverse of every villain that has tried to convince the good guy, "But we're alike you and I."
Jurati's comment to the Borg Queen from that clip is essentially the reverse of every villain that has tried to convince the good guy, "But we're alike you and I."
I'm not trying to come across like one of those "I CALLED IT FIRST LIKE AND SUB TY" people or anything, but she was my first guess. I think she was a fair number of folks' first guess, though I remember Picard's mom being another popular pick.