No one in this series is disrespecting the senior officers, what are you talking about?
Ortegas in this episode was basically doing what Stiles did in BoT, Pike didn't tolerate her here, Kirk didn't tolerate Stiles in TOS.
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Ortegas in this episode was basically doing what Stiles did in BoT, Pike didn't tolerate her here, Kirk didn't tolerate Stiles in TOS.
I'd like to see less about Pike's ultimate fate, I feel he was stuck with that knowledge because of Discovery and I'm ready for him to accept it and move on with his life (except for painful reminders once in a brief while).
I'd love to see Spock start to be less formal and rapid fire - actually talk a little less.
I don't have an attachment to Una because they did so little with her. So either free her and do more with her or keep her there.
La'an: make her lineage matter. I would love to see her have to deal with prejudices over it and have that tie in wit Una's story.
Turn up M'Benga's mic. Guy mumbles a lot.
MORE ORTEGAS!
Honestly, I'd rather season two spend a lot ore time on the SNW characters and less on TOS legacy people. And what happened to Yeoman Colt? That could be a cool story.
I'd love to see Spock start to be less formal and rapid fire - actually talk a little less.
I don't have an attachment to Una because they did so little with her. So either free her and do more with her or keep her there.
La'an: make her lineage matter. I would love to see her have to deal with prejudices over it and have that tie in wit Una's story.
Turn up M'Benga's mic. Guy mumbles a lot.
MORE ORTEGAS!
Honestly, I'd rather season two spend a lot ore time on the SNW characters and less on TOS legacy people. And what happened to Yeoman Colt? That could be a cool story.
I remember when Stargate SG-1 was on, and there were those who complained about Jack O'Neill's constant sarcasm and flippancy were not how a Colonel in the US Air Force was supposed to act. Then in the fourth season, General Michael Ryan, the USAF's actual Chief of Staff had a cameo on the show. While he was there, Richard Dean Anderson was talking with him and even asked if he knew any actual Colonels who acted like O'Neill. General Ryan sighed and answered "I know many Colonels who are exactly like O'Neill. And many more who are much worse."
Even in today's military, sarcasm and wit are things that go on, and are even tolerated. Surely in the supposedly non-military Starfleet, there's room for such behavior, no?
A heist episode where the crew breaks Number One outta Federation prison. Sybok tries to recruit Spock... "his first chance to join him" on his quest. An Ortegas centered episode. Kirk returns and Pike starts grooming him to take over the Enterprise.
A new engineer arrives... who is it... ?
A new engineer arrives... who is it... ?
Trip Tucker.
Heh ... At that age he'd be like ...Trip Tucker.
"GET OUT OF MY ENGINE ROOM, YA YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPER!!!
Ortegas: "I thought you were dead."Trip Tucker.
Tucker: "Yeah, I get that a lot."
Trip Tucker.
"Keep your britches on, Cap'n!"
Ortegas will wear a skant.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf6n5SJutOB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I hope Spock does too. Ethan Peck has indicated an interest
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf6n5SJutOB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I hope Spock does too. Ethan Peck has indicated an interest
This has nothing to do with casting. They can recast Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Chapel, M'Benga, etc. But I would REALLY like to see less reliance on legacy characters. TOS Kirk went dozens of episodes without running into another starship or meeting another captain. What I really appreciated about the original series was that starships were really spread out so they couldn't get assistance quickly. Bob Justman resisted Kirk having a regular Klingon adversary because of the vastness of space. I bristle at Small Universe Syndrome. Having Kirk do a one-off in an alternate future? Awesome. Making him recurring? I wish they wouldn't. I'd rather they leave out all of the original series people other than Spock, until we get a lot closer to Kirk taking command. It just feels like they're spending more time on Spock, Chapel, T'Pring, M'Benga and Uhura than on La'an, Ortegas and Una. The one new person, other than Pike, who was all that fleshed out wasn't even a legit regular (miss you Hemmer!)
If I had one damned wish, it would be to spend more time on the original people, Pike and Number One.
If I had one damned wish, it would be to spend more time on the original people, Pike and Number One.
ST is designed to be comfort food. SNW is doing well at that.
Expanse is fantastic. But ST isn't aiming for that.
Thanks for posting those pictures here and elsewhere. Shatner was clearly very fit by the standards of the day. The idea that he wasn't fit is just plain ignorance.
You're right, it's not until the steroid fueled stars in the 80s that things changed to unrealistic/unhealthy standards. (Even more so for women of course.)
Exactly.
I agree with your idea. Keep Pike, Spock, and Una but no other legacy characters. It's not going to happen though. As discussed in this thread, ST is comfort food and people like the familiarity.
That was basically the main point of Quality of Mercy. I'm not saying that won't address again at all, but it's essentially a done deal. He's accepted it. He's moved through all the stages of grief about it.
Late in the SNW series, we might revisit it as it actually happens. Who knows? Hopefully, that's not for many years though.
- Hemmer’s blood taken back to Andoria and meet his family
- Wrigley’s pleasure planet seen for the first time
- A Mirror universe episode. Rise of mirror Kirk. The fall of mirror Pike. The legacy of Khan in the mirror universe through La’an. Mirror Risa shown for the first time ever. Ash Tyler & Captain Killy cameos.
- Confederation timeline introduced to SNW, with DIS cameos.
- A literal strange new world. As strange as possible.
- A run in with the Orion Syndicate, this time featuring Nausicaans.
- Namedrops for Trip, T’Pol, Shran, Porthos, Suliban
- Miranda class, SNW style
- Flashbacks - April’s captaincy. The Sheliak. Maybe even Kaaj.
- Dr. Sarah April
- L’Rell & the Klingons return
- An Ortegas story and a Sam Kirk story
This. 1000% this. Stop looking to the past and look forward.
But they are looking forward, technically, Pike and the crew's future.
And nothing I have seen so far even puts a dent in canon, so well done SNW!
And nothing I have seen so far even puts a dent in canon, so well done SNW!
To me Spock seemed harder, colder and more distant in the alt-reality. There was a tension between him and Pike in that first scene together on the bridge. Like something had damaged their relationship. It lifted when Spock did the meld.
Ortegas will wear a skant.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cf6n5SJutOB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I hope Spock does too. Ethan Peck has indicated an interest
Also Uhura's uniform looks slightly different. She's also not wearing the cadet badge... so is Ensign Uhura coming next year?
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