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Spoilers SDCC season 3 news thread!

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David Ajala is joining the cast as Book. Photo courtesy of @startrekroom on Twitter
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Also @Trekmovie reports Discovery did not arrive at Terralysium in the future. Episode 3 was shot in Iceland.
 
Cleveland Booker? All those writers and that was the best name they could come up with for the character? It seems incredibly generic.
 
I hate the shouting Spock gag.

It feels like they've decided the best path forward for Star Trek is to sponge off the people who couldn't let it go for the past fifteen years and take all our nostalgia and navel-gazing and put it up on screen. I have very little interest in watching Star Trek: Fandom. "What they're talking about on the TrekBBS" is not a premise that'll ensure fresh, exciting stories for years to come.

On the plus side, now I understand why Roddenberry more-or-less wanted to pretend TOS never happened when they were developing TNG.
 
I hate the shouting Spock gag.

It feels like they've decided the best path forward for Star Trek is to sponge off the people who couldn't let it go for the past fifteen years and take all our nostalgia and navel-gazing and put it up on screen. I have very little interest in watching Star Trek: Fandom. "What they're talking about on the TrekBBS" is not a premise that'll ensure fresh, exciting stories for years to come.

On the plus side, now I understand why Roddenberry more-or-less wanted to pretend TOS never happened when they were developing TNG.
I was thinking, it's like they're aiming this iteration of Trek squarely at TrekBBS. Of course, YMMV as to whether that's awesome or terrible. I'm in the former category.
 
Seems pretty cool to me. The last batch of Short Treks were pretty satisfying, and Pike & the Enterprise crew are fun....so not sure why these can't be every bit as good or better.
 
I was thinking, it's like they're aiming this iteration of Trek squarely at TrekBBS. Of course, YMMV as to whether that's awesome or terrible. I'm in the former category.
I just don't see how I can possibly have fun with this. I dropped off the board for a couple years when I realized I stopped having the same conversations with the same people over and over again every few months and had started having it every few weeks. I'd squeezed all the juice out of the orange, pumped it back into the orange, and squeezed it out again. I need Trek to be bringing something new to the table. We're the audience, our job is to interpret and contextualize. How am I supposed to watch Star Trek when Star Trek has begun watching itself and no longer requires our participation?

I'm afraid Star Trek has plunged itself into an ever-narrowing gyre. We joke about how Spock shouted a lot in the first couple episodes, they make a prequel where Spock shouts to reference that. Data's supposed to be the new take on the Spock concept, now season 0 Spock sounds indistinguishable from season 1 Data rambling on and on. I worried after STID that the future of Trek would be endlessly remaking the same three greatest hits over and over, like the Batman movies ("Klingons/Romulans," "Khan," "Borg," recast, rinse, and repeat), but this is actually much worse. They're endlessly remaking fan commentary about the same three greatest hits over and over.

I close my eyes after seeing the news from the SDCC presentation and I just see Don Hertzfeldt's Simpsons couch gag where we see the show distill and mutate and distill over and over for millions of years until the only thing left is a pitiable and alien expression of the show's most fundamental elements. I have no desire for this to go on long enough for the ultimate Star Trek series to be a stick figure of Captain Kirk groping a globe saying, "I must teach the new planet to make love" next to a stick figure of Spock saying, "Highly illogical."

I thought the right thing to do when Star Trek was first announced as coming back to TV was to do a square-one reboot. Read the TOS pitch document, and start from that; high-grade futurism combined with ripped-from-the-headlines storylines and strong, relatable characters in a flexible action-adventure genre. We're headed far in the opposite direction with Star Trek existing mostly to remind you of the old Star Trek you liked more.
 
I just don't see how I can possibly have fun with this. I dropped off the board for a couple years when I realized I stopped having the same conversations with the same people over and over again every few months and had started having it every few weeks. I'd squeezed all the juice out of the orange, pumped it back into the orange, and squeezed it out again. I need Trek to be bringing something new to the table. We're the audience, our job is to interpret and contextualize. How am I supposed to watch Star Trek when Star Trek has begun watching itself and no longer requires our participation?

I'm afraid Star Trek has plunged itself into an ever-narrowing gyre. We joke about how Spock shouted a lot in the first couple episodes, they make a prequel where Spock shouts to reference that. Data's supposed to be the new take on the Spock concept, now season 0 Spock sounds indistinguishable from season 1 Data rambling on and on. I worried after STID that the future of Trek would be endlessly remaking the same three greatest hits over and over, like the Batman movies ("Klingons/Romulans," "Khan," "Borg," recast, rinse, and repeat), but this is actually much worse. They're endlessly remaking fan commentary about the same three greatest hits over and over.

I close my eyes after seeing the news from the SDCC presentation and I just see Don Hertzfeldt's Simpsons couch gag where we see the show distill and mutate and distill over and over for millions of years until the only thing left is a pitiable and alien expression of the show's most fundamental elements. I have no desire for this to go on long enough for the ultimate Star Trek series to be a stick figure of Captain Kirk groping a globe saying, "I must teach the new planet to make love" next to a stick figure of Spock saying, "Highly illogical."

I thought the right thing to do when Star Trek was first announced as coming back to TV was to do a square-one reboot. Read the TOS pitch document, and start from that; high-grade futurism combined with ripped-from-the-headlines storylines and strong, relatable characters in a flexible action-adventure genre. We're headed far in the opposite direction with Star Trek existing mostly to remind you of the old Star Trek you liked more.

Then you should like the third season of DSC because it takes place in the 33rd Century and away from all this.
 
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