Scotty's cut scene fro WoK

[David cgc]

As a matter of fact, there is. The Scotty one comes in at 2:12, and Khan at 2:44.

Wow. Pretty hilarious that this trailer has tons of deleted/clipped scenes. It also pretty much ruins the whole movie except Spock's death.

I'd forgotten that it was built out of so many unused takes. I think Nick Meyer should use that compared with the ones that went in the film to show how well his "Make Shatner keep doing it until he get's bored and stops AGHCK-TING all over the damn set" technique worked.

"Who? Who knew where to hit us?! And WHY?!"

"FIRE!!"

 

[erastus25]

As a matter of fact, there is. The Scotty one comes in at 2:12, and Khan at 2:44.

Wow. Pretty hilarious that this trailer has tons of deleted/clipped scenes. It also pretty much ruins the whole movie except Spock's death.

I think Nick Meyer should use that compared with the ones that went in the film to show how well his "Make Shatner keep doing it until he get's bored and stops AGHCK-TING all over the damn set" technique worked.

Did he really do that???

 

[Harvey]

According to Meyer, in multiple commentaries, that was his technique. He kept wearing down Shatner with take after take until he'd stop acting and just say the lines.

 

[Iamnotspock]

Did he really do that???

Yes he did. I strongly recommend his commentary on the 2002 DVD release of TWoK. He says that Shatner always had an instinct on the first take to play it with a certain attitude, and that he would improve with each take as he got bored and would eventually just say the lines. It then became a matter of Meyer making sure he didn't put Shatner in a two-shot with someone who was best on the first take! Ricardo Montalban would always nail it on the first take, and because Kirk and Khan don't meet face-to-face in the film and only interact via the viewscreen (their scenes were filmed quite some time apart), Meyer was able to cut Montalban's first take with Shatner's sixth to great effect.

There's a great example in the moment where Kirk tricks Khan into thinking he's going to hand over the Genesis material when in fact he's secretly plotting to take down Reliant's shields. Kirk turns to the viewscreen and says; "Here it comes." Shatner kept delivering it with a yodel in his voice, like; "Here it cuh-uhms...", like "Heeere's Johnny!" and Meyer kept having to say; "Bill, you're telegraphing it! This is not a dummy you're talking to. He has a genetically engineered intellect, he's gonna figure it out! You have to deliver it casually." Eventually after several takes, Shatner got bored and said it the way he does in the final cut.

 

[erastus25]

haha! that's awesome! thanks for the info!

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

Star Trek doesn't always end on a bright note. However, I don't think there was ever a point where we saw a two-year old child explode either. That right there would be far more disturbing than anything on that list I worte above.

TWOK ended on a sad note as it was.

Khan dies, a shame because he appeared to be an adaptable, noble sort of fellow at the end of Space Seed. And for his hubris he took his loyal crew with him.

Spock dies, but his great sacrifice saves the crew, and Kirk finds himself able to go on, having found new purpose and reconciles with his son.

Having the child die would have added shock value and not much more that I can think of.

 

[starfox]

Star Trek doesn't always end on a bright note. However, I don't think there was ever a point where we saw a two-year old child explode either. That right there would be far more disturbing than anything on that list I worte above.

TWOK ended on a sad note as it was.

Khan dies, a shame because he appeared to be an adaptable, noble sort of fellow at the end of Space Seed. And for his hubris he took his loyal crew with him.

Spock dies, but his great sacrifice saves the crew, and Kirk finds himself able to go on, having found new purpose and reconciles with his son.

Having the child die would have added shock value and not much more that I can think of.

No love for Mr. Scott's nephew, who also died?

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

Star Trek doesn't always end on a bright note. However, I don't think there was ever a point where we saw a two-year old child explode either. That right there would be far more disturbing than anything on that list I worte above.

TWOK ended on a sad note as it was.

Khan dies, a shame because he appeared to be an adaptable, noble sort of fellow at the end of Space Seed. And for his hubris he took his loyal crew with him.

Spock dies, but his great sacrifice saves the crew, and Kirk finds himself able to go on, having found new purpose and reconciles with his son.

Having the child die would have added shock value and not much more that I can think of.

No love for Mr. Scott's nephew, who also died?

A little bit yes.

But other than Joachim we don't get to know Khan's crew all that much, other than that they's unswervingly loyal. I'm not sure how his kid could have been brought into the film in any meaningful way, other than to turn up and die really. So no, I wouldn't have any great hankering to see the child's scenes included.