Saucers are Overused in Federation Designs
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Clearly you have the problem as obviously that saucer doesn't allow for Starfleet to be creative with their starships...or something
There is a way to get away from traditional saucers, while retaining that iconic silhouette.
http://memory-gamma.wikia.com/wiki/Insignia_class
http://memory-gamma.wikia.com/wiki/Insignia_class
You're a little out of control, but I think I like it. I wanna see more like "of".
In "Prelude to Axanar", a carrier featured twin secondary hulls.
Without saucers, how would Picard deal with spilling his tea?
If it's good enough for Klaatu, it's good enough for me
The way it was, that's the way it's got to be
He told me bout the Saucer that he flew
Even when he was down and blue
It was good enough for Klaatu
He's been to all kinds of places
Been to every foreign land
Ain't no man can return to life
Better than Klaatu can!
And all the flying saucers that he flew
If they was good enough for Klaatu
They're good enough for me!
-Sung to the tune of "Good Enough for Granddad" by Squirrel Nut Zippers
The Saucer is iconic. I'm sure there's some quasi-canon book that explains why Starfleet uses them. They also use the sphere once in awhile, and the shovelhead stuff, too. The saucer looks more sci fi, to me. I think they will keep using it. Whether it is efficient, I cant say, but if you look at the ISS, it's basically a bunch of cylinders connected together. A saucer is a cylinder on a diet. Maybe its an efficent pressure vessle in vacuum. What do I know.
The way it was, that's the way it's got to be
He told me bout the Saucer that he flew
Even when he was down and blue
It was good enough for Klaatu
He's been to all kinds of places
Been to every foreign land
Ain't no man can return to life
Better than Klaatu can!
And all the flying saucers that he flew
If they was good enough for Klaatu
They're good enough for me!
-Sung to the tune of "Good Enough for Granddad" by Squirrel Nut Zippers
The Saucer is iconic. I'm sure there's some quasi-canon book that explains why Starfleet uses them. They also use the sphere once in awhile, and the shovelhead stuff, too. The saucer looks more sci fi, to me. I think they will keep using it. Whether it is efficient, I cant say, but if you look at the ISS, it's basically a bunch of cylinders connected together. A saucer is a cylinder on a diet. Maybe its an efficent pressure vessle in vacuum. What do I know.
Actually, I think that this would be quite interesting as the secondary hull of a ship. I would add a disc shaped primary hull at the front, with a short neck.I personally like this, with the more oval shape:
There has been a little room for creativity, while retaining the iconic saucer.
1. Some variation in the number and placement of warp nacelles.
2. Some variation in the shape of a secondary hull.
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That would be the USS Newton from Star Trek (2009), a design Axanar directly copied.
Which is doubly difficult for Trek, because you have a crew aboard a futuristic space ship who encounter....the fantastic. For the willing suspension of disbelief, you must somehow make the futuristic part seem plausible. One way is to make it quasi-hard. (As opposed to fluffy soft). Another way is to make the futuristic internally consistent.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness
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Realized that this reminds me of the Narn ships in Babylon 5. Those too had an industrial look, with portions of the ship covered up with painted plates.I personally like this, with the more oval shape:
Well no, the Proxima is a complete saucer with unique secondary hulls and detailing. The Axa ship is literally an exact copypaste of the USS Kelvin-derived Newton, with slightly different nacelles.
Which is the same thing: bits that are "slightly different", proportions that don't really match, and a general look that would make the layman call all three ships the same at first glance.
Of course, the Axanar ship was fully intended to be the 2009 movie ship, only "adjusted to better match" another vision. Whether the 2009 design was similarly stolen from Legacy is unknown at this point.
Timo Saloniemi
Of course, the Axanar ship was fully intended to be the 2009 movie ship, only "adjusted to better match" another vision. Whether the 2009 design was similarly stolen from Legacy is unknown at this point.
Timo Saloniemi
...There are about half a dozen, the "perimeter action ships" being the most prominent and best-known fan creation to predate the ENT design. It's simply impossible to come up with something that somebody somewhere would not already have done with the saucers and cigars at his or her disposal. Beyond that, it's up to chance factors whether two more or less identical designs both happen to be prominent rather than obscure.
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
