No. In fact, Spock is serving on board the U.S.S, Enterprise as a Lt. under the command of Captain Christopher Pike - and is probably experiencing the events detailed in the TOS episodes "The Cage" and "The Menagerie".
Sarek, played by James Frain
- Thread starter Balok's Decoy
- Start date
Check this out.
James Frain and Sarek are now listed in the main cast on the Wiki page.
Quite pleased with this casting, I thought he was great on The Tudors and I've seen him more recently on Orphan Black. He seems to be able to play quite a range, so Sarek shouldn't be too much of a stretch. Trek 09s Sarek wasn't brilliant, in my mind, it takes a surprising talent to play an interesting Vulcan.
Listing as main cast is quite surprising, I'll be interested to know what they do with the character. At this rate when we look back at Star Trek as a whole in years to come, the story of Sarek and Family is going to be pretty key. They're the Skywalkers of Star Trek.
Listing as main cast is quite surprising, I'll be interested to know what they do with the character. At this rate when we look back at Star Trek as a whole in years to come, the story of Sarek and Family is going to be pretty key. They're the Skywalkers of Star Trek.
Not sure if mentioned before, but just noticed that James Frain is already older than Mark Lenard was when he played Sarek for a first time. Frain is 48 years old, Mark Lenard was 43. Not that it matters.
"You've failed, commander. I am a Vulcan, like my father before me." - Spock to the female Romulan commander.
I wonder if Discovery's captain is going to wax philosophically on retiring from the service to join the slave trade? Or if an alien crew member will be shocked by "THE WOMEN!" getting beamed away?
At least at some point I want Discovery receiving a communication from Starfleet saying that Talos IV is "planet forbidden" and the death penalty is in effect as a punishment for going there.
Of course, he's much younger than Ben Cross was when he played Sarek in 2009, in what would have been chronologically about a decade before Sarek's appearance in Journey to Babel, and even earlier than that in the deleted scene at Spock's birth.
48 is the new 43.
What do you think Sarek's relationship with Starfleet will be? He's certainly not happy that his son is in Starfleet, so do you think that informs his opinion of the organization as a whole, or did he simply not want Spock to join?
Of course we know established birthdays mean nothing in the ST09 universe. Sarek could be any age there.
Lenard was too young at the time anyway - didn't they use age makeup and gray his hair? He was born only 7 years before Nimoy.
Actually, you could say 60 is the new 43 since Frain will be that age if he plays the role until his Sarek reaches Babel-Sarek's age.
True enough, although given how slowly Vulcans age, he'd probably look the same in 2255 as in 2267. I just am curious about his role, given his antipathy toward his son's joining Starfleet. He's also credited as an astrophysicist, which seems a new detail. Thus far his talent has seemed to be diplomacy. Of course, Spock started as a science officer, moved to command, and then went into diplomacy himself. So, that's not particularly unusual. I would expect that Sarek would be a civilian scientist though.
That has to be wrong, or Discovery is opening planning on being a reboot, regardless of what the production staff says.
MA:
A scene cut from the final script of "Journey to Babel" established that Sarek was previously an astrophysicist before becoming a diplomat. (Star Trek Compendium, 4th ed., p. 89)
I'm not sure how that answers my question. Are you saying it is confirmed, or that a cut scene from the script of a 50 year old episode is something one should include in a basic description of a character, or that it somehow is "canon" to the character prior to this series? Can you please clarify?
It means someone on Wikipedia knows an obscure factoid.
Was just giving the source for the statement on Wikipedia, nothing more, nothing less. I thought you'd be able to answer your own question given that information, which it seems you have. It was cut, so it's not canon. Of course Discovery may or may not decide to canonize it, we have no information on that.
I don't see how it's a strange take on the character in any case. He obviously had some interest in science if he wanted Spock to join the science academy. Of course he wasn't in Starfleet but that doesn't preclude him from studying astrophysics.
It means that since DSC has become a reimagined reboot with Draconian-Klingon hybrids, all bets are off. Sarek could very well be a Starfleet astrophysicist serving in the USS Discovery or the USS Shenzhou in this timeline/universe/whatever.
That is true.
Last edited:
