OMFG. More Wussyboi?
Seriously? Having a second movie was bad enough, now a fourth...
Seriously? Having a second movie was bad enough, now a fourth...
Sam Raimi Hints at Possible Spider-Man 4 Villain
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Yeah, Maguire has never been quite... right, for Spider-man, for me personally.
He's fine as long as he's not emoting. When he emotes (usualy to cry/look pensive) he looks like he's trying to make a difficult bowel movement.
Exactly. The script was so much in place that it took a rushed rewrite to merge Venom into the script.
NOT.RAIMI's.FAULT.
I think it was a partial creative dissapointment but not entirely. It was coming on the heels of SM:2 which was highly praised and well received by both critics and fans alike. I've watched it a few times since and while I don't deny its flaws I think too many deny the film its merits as well.
As to Morbius I don't see anything wrong with going this route. Sure I'd like to see Vulture or Kraven and especially Lizard. However, just as the surgery scene in SM:2 played to Raimi's horror roots and gave us a great and stylized scary yet not gory scene with Doc Ock's arms I think too we could get that with Morbius.
Also lets not forget that vampires are always "in" with Hollywood and most moviegoers. By the time this comes out True Blood will likely be in S4, Twilight will be on its 3rd or 4th film and the sequel to 30 Days of Night will have come out. The general going audiences might just need a dose of the "familiar" to get them back to Spidey.
Even if we get Morbius I don't doubt that we might yet still get Lizard as well.
Not sure I knew this. Even though 3 is disappointing, this is encouraging information. Perhaps S3 puts Raimi in a position to say "we tried it your way and look what we got, now what do you say we go back to mine."
You're right because film isn't a director's medium. Especially when that director has just made tons of cash in the franchise.
It's totally Raimi's fault, even for just caving.
You're right because film isn't a director's medium. Especially when that director has just made tons of cash in the franchise.
It's totally Raimi's fault, even for just caving.
Script and Final Film are two very different things.
How things get from page to screen, especially if the page is flawed at the onset(as it was here post grafting Venom into it), are not equal.
Even if Raimi hadn't "caved" you'd just be complaining about director "x" cause the script Raimi shot was the one Sony was going to use. They were not going to delay it any longer.
You're right because film isn't a director's medium. Especially when that director has just made tons of cash in the franchise.
It's totally Raimi's fault, even for just caving.
Script and Final Film are two very different things.
How things get from page to screen, especially if the page is flawed at the onset(as it was here post grafting Venom into it), are not equal.
Even if Raimi hadn't "caved" you'd just be complaining about director "x" cause the script Raimi shot was the one Sony was going to use. They were not going to delay it any longer.
Are you saying Raimi had NO power, NO say in what got made? Because that's what you are saying. And I find that INCREDIBLY hard to believe. That after two HUGE movies Raimi had NO power to do what he wanted. Money is the coin of the realm, Raimi brought Sony a TON of cash. He had say. Raimi caved.
Have you read the embeded sequence? Do you understand it or are you just ignoring it cause it doesn't fit with your "Raimi to blame" motif??You're right because film isn't a director's medium. Especially when that director has just made tons of cash in the franchise.
It's totally Raimi's fault, even for just caving.
Script and Final Film are two very different things.
How things get from page to screen, especially if the page is flawed at the onset(as it was here post grafting Venom into it), are not equal.
Even if Raimi hadn't "caved" you'd just be complaining about director "x" cause the script Raimi shot was the one Sony was going to use. They were not going to delay it any longer.
Are you saying Raimi had NO power, NO say in what got made? Because that's what you are saying. And I find that INCREDIBLY hard to believe. That after two HUGE movies Raimi had NO power to do what he wanted. Money is the coin of the realm, Raimi brought Sony a TON of cash. He had say. Raimi caved.
Raimi had his say. He let it be known he DID NOT want VENOM.
Sony and Arad overturned him and said TOUGH SHIT. For marketing reasons we want him in there and now your going to put him and make nice to the press about how you see the charcter in a new light with possibilites.
You may find it INCREDIBLY hard to believe but you've been served. Now go on over to Ripley's page for more news you may choose to ignore but yet is true.
Agreed. Though I also didnt really like the first one. The second was the only one I thought was good. Octopus was the best villian in all three.
Maybe...Morbius is around from Scene 1 of the film, his origin being spoken of later. Spidey tries to stop him, with limited success, and a bite starts to mutate him. He bites Connors in turn while being treated, which messes up Connors secret efforts at regenerating his lost arm. The three mutates then attract the attention of Kraven. Important : No 'villains meet and team up' nonsense. A free-for-all, plain and simple. Maybe even have a bitten MJ go Demogoblin, like UMJ.
To be fair, its only a description Bendis himself uses, and has never been stated in the stories. UMJ was fed the mutagen (by one of Peter's crazed clones in a saga that rocked and moved fast--unlike, ya know...) that turned U-Norman and U-Harry into Green and Hobs. Bendis calls her in interviews U-Demo, but that is listed nowhere in the story, and they have an out for the 'U-Osborns can't ever be cured' trope in UMJ's case.
And for completeness, Peter's main surviving clone is not U-Ben Reilly, but a chromosomal 'sister' who calls herself Jessica Drew. Also, the clone mastermind is U-Doc Ock.
I think I'll take a U-Turn.
That's one serious clusterf*** there. Probably would make for an absolute mess of a film.
I thought the first two were great, but after that last one, I think maybe they should put the whole franchise to bed for a few years and then just start over with a new cast. I'm not the biggest fan of reboots, but after Spidy 3 the thought of continuing on is poison to me.
Oh believe me, my inner fanboy screams "that would be awesome!" at that idea, but the part of me that lives in reality knows that could never feasibly be done and be good at the same time.
