SAG-AFTRA vote to go on strike

[valkyrie013]

Certain jobs, like say Order taker at McDonalds shouldn't be a Living Wage, because its just a starter job for Teens in school or collage or old people.
Now, Everybody in Hollywood? YES those should be Liveable wages, thats there primary job. Now it depends on how much they work, etc. Health care, the bar is set at $26,000, thats a VERY LOW bar, thats basically poverty. If say a writer is working for most of a year and doesn't clear that, that is absolutly wrong.

 

[Timby]

Certain jobs, like say Order taker at McDonalds shouldn't be a Living Wage

Why not?

This is straight-up classism.

If you're able-bodied and can hold down a job, even if it's something like being a cashier, then you deserve a living wage.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Certain jobs, like say Order taker at McDonalds shouldn't be a Living Wage, because its just a starter job for Teens in school or collage or old people.

 

[Jedman67]

Bear in mind that this, just like the Marvel unionization, is not the over-worked, under-paid artists at sweatshop CGI studios. This is the on-set people who wrangle data and work with camera operators, things of that nature. It's a grand total of 18 people at Disney who unionized under IATSE.

Got a source for it only being 18 people?
And yeah, I knew it was set workers but these people do work absurdly long hours and deserve the benefits of union membership IMO.
VFX digital artists too.

 

[Farscape One]

Certain jobs, like say Order taker at McDonalds shouldn't be a Living Wage, because its just a starter job for Teens in school or collage or old people.
Now, Everybody in Hollywood? YES those should be Liveable wages, thats there primary job. Now it depends on how much they work, etc. Health care, the bar is set at $26,000, thats a VERY LOW bar, thats basically poverty. If say a writer is working for most of a year and doesn't clear that, that is absolutly wrong.

That is one of THE most classist statements I have ever read around here.

Why are Order Takers at McDonald's and similar jobs different than writers, warehouse workers, office workers, etc.?

They are still people making an honest living and should be able to pay for living expenses. Yes, some of them are just starting in the workforce, but what difference does that make? Many of them are also working that as a second job to pay their bills. You think that's right?

As for the elderly working there... in the first place, it's hideously wrong that the elderly are working like that to begin with. After working for decades, you don't think they should be able to relax in their twilight years after busting their asses for so long? Secondly, why use them as an example of the kind of people that those jobs are suited for? Third, you don't think the elderly deserve a living wage, whether it's because they can't afford to not be working or just want to keep busy and active?

 

[Captain Shaw]

Certain jobs, like say Order taker at McDonalds shouldn't be a Living Wage, because its just a starter job for Teens in school or collage or old people.
Now, Everybody in Hollywood? YES those should be Liveable wages, thats there primary job. Now it depends on how much they work, etc. Health care, the bar is set at $26,000, thats a VERY LOW bar, thats basically poverty. If say a writer is working for most of a year and doesn't clear that, that is absolutly wrong.

There's no such thing as a starter job.
I saw a women who I used to work with working at McDonalds, she went there after losing her job and instead of sitting on her backside waiting for the right job to come along , she took that job while trying to find something else that doesn't involved working with the public.

 

[Snaploud]

[sarcasm]Why stop at paying below a living wage for starter jobs? Let's call them all unpaid interns and tell them to sleep under bridges. Don't worry. They'll be allowed to feed and clothe themselves after they reach the qualifying age of a non-starter job (25? 30?). Anybody who lives long enough will deserve the real jobs like WBD executive and youtube celebrity.[/sarcasm]

 

[Happy Hopping]

He makes his living by being an asshole. Who cares what he claims to support?

lookintothestars.org are independent, you have to be either an activists or donate a good chunk of $, in order to be on that list. So he did donate a lot on ALL of those charities

 

[Aragorn]

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[Timby]

Got a source for it only being 18 people?

Here you go.

A supermajority (over 80%) of the 18 in-house VFX crew members at Walt Disney Pictures signed authorization cards signaling their desire to unionize.

 

[Sci]

Certain jobs, like say Order taker at McDonalds shouldn't be a Living Wage, because its just a starter job for Teens in school or collage or old people.

In other words, you agree that some jobs need to exist but think the people doing them ought to live in poverty.

Also? There are plenty of people for whom customer service jobs like working at McDonald's is their primary job, and plenty of people for whom it is how they support their families. They deserve dignity and respect and a living wage.

 

[FPAlpha]

lookintothestars.org are independent, you have to be either an activists or donate a good chunk of $, in order to be on that list. So he did donate a lot on ALL of those charities

It doesn't matter if he's doing one thing right, if he's an asshole the rest of the day he's still an asshole.

In other words, you agree that some jobs need to exist but think the people doing them ought to live in poverty.

Also? There are plenty of people for whom customer service jobs like working at McDonald's is their primary job, and plenty of people for whom it is how they support their families. They deserve dignity and respect and a living wage.

Another argument is simply time - we all have a fixed amount of time per day to earn a living. At least 6 hours of sleep, doctors recommend 7-8 hours. Let's assume a medium commute time of one hour back and forth and let's say 2 hours a day for general necessities of life ( grocery shopping, cleaning the appartment/house, other related things that need to be done). That's 9-11 hours of a day gone before you actually start working, leaving you between 13-15 hours to make a living. Some jobs have 8 hour shifts, some even 12 and i haven't even started on the need for private relaxation time per day. Go long enough without being able to wind down in a day and you will for certain develop mental health problems, a Burnout is one that most are familiar with this and that's just one example, there's tons more.

So it doesn't matter if you're CEO or someone flipping burgers - your available work time should be able to support your life and i haven't even talked about people needing 2-3 of these jobs to make it through the month, cutting out all available free time and possibly even into sleep time. If you have no skills and degrees then that life probably won't include expensive vacations to far away countries or a new car every 3-5 years but that's not the issue here, fair wages are and these should at minimum be able to give you something to live off.

 

[thribs]

I just keep imagining the actors going up against Les Grossman in the negotiations. That’s why they haven’t got very far.

 

[Snaploud]

WGA Pickets Planned As ‘The Drew Barrymore Show’ Resumes Without Writers

While most talk shows remain dark in solidarity with the actors' and writers' strikes, Barrymore and her team are breaking that unity.
BY EVE BATEY

SEPTEMBER 10, 2023

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/09/drew-barrymore-show-wga-strike-pickets

Strange choice...It's hard to imagine she needs the money thay badly.

It wouldn't surprise me if she changes her mind again before the show is set to air.

 

[Relayer1]

[sarcasm]Why stop at paying below a living wage for starter jobs? Let's call them all unpaid interns and tell them to sleep under bridges. Don't worry. They'll be allowed to feed and clothe themselves after they reach the qualifying age of a non-starter job (25? 30?). Anybody who lives long enough will deserve the real jobs like WBD executive and youtube celebrity.[/sarcasm]

I was going to make a sarcastic post highlighting the idiocy of the post in question, but you've hit it out of the park - I couldn't compete.

Well played.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

NPR talked to a couple of technicians being effected by the strike. I didn't realize that the strike had halted shooting on the commercials we watch on television as well the ones we listen to on the radio. I pay so little attention to those anymore.

 

[thribs]

Maybe they need to be a bit more French in their striking methods. Burn a few studios down. That should do it.

 

[Sci]

NPR talked to a couple of technicians being effected by the strike. I didn't realize that the strike had halted shooting on the commercials we watch on television as well the ones we listen to on the radio. I pay so little attention to those anymore.

Yep, and those commercials are the bread-and-butter for a lot of actors. The fact that so many actors who make their living off of commercials were willing to authorize this strike again demonstrates how seriously actors as a whole take the issues being struck over -- they wouldn't take a step like this otherwise.

 

[Captain Shaw]

Yep, and those commercials are the bread-and-butter for a lot of actors. The fact that so many actors who make their living off of commercials were willing to authorize this strike again demonstrates how seriously actors as a whole take the issues being struck over -- they wouldn't take a step like this otherwise.

I can't find the thread on twitter at the moment, but there was an actor who made her living doing ADs and a lot of them now are non Union contacts.

 

[bdub76]

Maybe they need to be a bit more French in their striking methods. Burn a few studios down. That should do it.

Europe is far more employee friendly than the US. But their citizens take less crap from corps there.