SAG-AFTRA vote to go on strike

[valkyrie013]

and Will Wheaton has already said that he lived on residuals for almost 20 years after his parents took all his money as a kid actor. He wasn't a millionaire, but a 100 episode series residuals is probably (was) pretty good.
Now with streaming, we have actors signing away there residuals for a small lump sum, and even IF they didn't want to sign it, they kind of have to or they wouldn't get the job at all..
Then there's the SAG minimum, where actors get paid the same if they say 2 lines as a waiter, or a full guest actor roll.. The system is broken.
Then there's the audition system. Used to actors had to go in and read infront of directors, casting people etc. Since COVID, they have to send in a professionaly edited ( at there own expense) audition Video. Which sometimes you have like 200 sent in for a part, maybe 50 get watched, even less getting to the show runner.

For some bit of insite, the Shuttle Pod episode from last weekend had Terry Matalas on, had some stuff with the strike on it if your interested.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

wait a minute, that's not how any industry works. She work for 7 season, plus loyalty on re-air episodes, PC games, comic con, etc.

there is approx. 26 episodes per season, w/ all that money, she would have take the $, buy a house in cash, and can easily retired on either savings or those loyalty. So your story doesn't check out

As Timby said, you're *still* using someone in the top 10% of actors as the 'standard' against which all actors are being judged. Your standard is literally stupid.

Also, PC games, comic con, etc, have never actually given that much financial compensation. There's a reason most of the lesser known actors at a convention have to ask money for autographs.

More importantly: the whole point of this strike is because studios aren't paying even a fraction of the royalties they used to pay. If the studios actually paid royalties for streaming that were even remotely comparable to what they paid for television reruns (which are far less common than they used to be in the streaming era), then unknown/lesser known actors wouldn't be struggling nearly as much as they are.

 

[Happy Hopping]

SAG-AFTRA members must earn $26,470 per quarter in four consecutive quarters (on SAG-AFTRA-sanctioned projects), or work at least 102 days on union-sanctioned projects within a year, in order to be eligible for a year of healthcare benefits.

see, this is the reason the general public doesn't get the strike. $26.47K x 4 QTR = $105.88K of annual income. That's far more than most average household. So these actors / actresses are saying $105.88K is still not enough

If I only use min. expenses needed for the yr., I only need 1/3 of the above to get by.

take a look, US census, av. household income is only $70K

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2022/demo/p60-276.html

as to Wil Wheaton, he is a special case, because his parent took his money. But most actors / actresses are adult, as Wil's case doesn't apply to most actor / actress

 

[UssGlenn]

see, this is the reason the general public doesn't get the strike. $26.47K x 4 QTR = $105.88K of annual income. That's far more than most average household. So these actors / actresses are saying $105.88K is still not enough

As already pointed out, Timby spoke in error, its 26 per year not quarter

 

[bdub76]

The actors in the top shows make a lot of money. But then there are actors that end up doing maybe an episode or two of TV a year. Then they might pick up a Hallmark movie. These are the ones that really need progress with this strike.

Check out the Eureka guy. He had a good run with the show. Now, he’s maybe picking up an episode here and there along with some Hallmark work. That’s not steady employment.

These actors pretty much live on residuals that have dropped since the streaming wars began. Streaming pays less.

The shorter episode runs is also more inline with what British actors deal with that aren’t on soups.

 

[fireproof78]

take a look, US census, av. household income is only $70K

But that doesn't mean they can actually survive on it. Lots of people have incomes but their expenses all add up and make it difficult, plus planning ahead for an emergency. Income alone doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[Farscape One]

If someone can't live off of $100,000 a year in whatever state they live in... California for example... there are deeper and worse issues in that state than people not getting a higher salary for their work.

 

[bdub76]

If someone can't live off of $100,000 a year in whatever state they live in... California for example... there are deeper and worse issues in that state than people not getting a higher salary for their work.

Median rent in LA is $3k a month. Real estate is regional. And salaries don’t go the same distance in every state and city.

 

[Farscape One]

Median rent in LA is $3k a month. Real estate is regional. And salaries don’t go the same distance in every state and city.

I know that, and that's my point. Rent shouldn't be $36,000 in a year... that's more than what a lot of people make in Miami.

Cost of living should not be that ridiculous. Maybe some people should look at those issues in addition to the strikes.

 

[bdub76]

I know that, and that's my point. Rent shouldn't be $36,000 in a year... that's more than what a lot of people make in Miami.

Cost of living should not be that ridiculous. Maybe some people should look at those issues in addition to the strikes.

Cost of living is determined by builders and public policy and income. And CA does have some rent control. Otherwise, it would be much higher.

 

[Farscape One]

Cost of living is determined by builders and public policy and income. And CA does have some rent control. Otherwise, it would be much higher.

California is notorious for being an expensive place to live. Pretty much the only rivals for their high cost is New York and Miami. And as you said, policy is part of what determines cost of living.

Again, maybe some of those policies should be looked at.

 

[bdub76]

California is notorious for being an expensive place to live. Pretty much the only rivals for their high cost is New York and Miami. And as you said, policy is part of what determines cost of living.

Again, maybe some of those policies should be looked at.

America is a great place to invest because Americans will put up with this to make the rich richer. I can’t wrap my head around it. But that seems to be the reality these days.

 

[UssGlenn]

Homeowners Insurance is killing us in Louisiana right now.

 

[Farscape One]

Homeowners Insurance is killing us in Louisiana right now.

Same in Florida. Prices have been jacked up almost double.

 

[valkyrie013]

Oh for..
https://www.sagaftraplans.org/health/benefits/spd/qualifying-sag-aftra-health-plan-coverage

You must meet the Eligibility Threshold (currently $26,470) in Covered Earnings during your 12-month Base Earnings Period.

Both sessional and residual earnings are included toward the Eligibility Threshold.

Alternative Days Eligibility Threshold

You must meet the Eligibility Threshold for Eligibility Days (currently 102 days) worked during your 12-month Base Earnings Period under specified contracts.

Active Plan (formerly Plan I) Earnings Threshold
You must earn at least $26,470 in Covered Earnings in your Base Earnings Period to receive Earned Eligibility for Active Plan health coverage.

There, straight from the horses mouth.. $26,470 per YEAR

I couldn't live on that amount per year period, but thats just the Minimum to get healthcare.

 

[bdub76]

Same in Florida. Prices have been jacked up almost double.

I see it happening for auto here in AZ, but my home owner insurance hasn’t been jacked up yet.

 

[Farscape One]

I see it happening for auto here in AZ, but my home owner insurance hasn’t been jacked up yet.

Don't be surprised when it happens. Dollars to donuts, it'll get raised.

 

[Tuskin38]

Stephen Amell:
"I do not support striking. I don't. I think it's a reductive negotiating tactic, and I find the entire thing entirely frustrating."
https://twitter.com/darlinginmyway/status/1686123158250590209

The fuck man.

 

[bdub76]

Stephen Amell:
"I do not support striking. I don't. I think it's a reductive negotiating tactic, and I find the entire thing entirely frustrating."
https://twitter.com/darlinginmyway/status/1686123158250590209

The fuck man.

My prediction: he ends up in a GAC Christmas movie.

 

[Sci]

Stephen Amell:
"I do not support striking. I don't. I think it's a reductive negotiating tactic, and I find the entire thing entirely frustrating."
https://twitter.com/darlinginmyway/status/1686123158250590209

The fuck man.

Well I'm never watching anything with Stephen Amell in it again.