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Russell T Davies yes/no

Nope, it's not that at all. Some folks just like one actor better than another. I don't care who-was-in-what-role-for-how-long-when - getting the old DW piecemeal as we did here, I never paid any attention to exactly how one actor succeeded the last or for how long.

Smith has two basic modes of delivery - low, deadly earnest and distracted/manic comic - and there are moments in either mode where he still sounds like a fannish kid doing a Tennant impersonation.
 
Nope, it's not that at all. Some folks just like one actor better than another. I don't care who-was-in-what-role-for-how-long-when - getting the old DW piecemeal as we did here, I never paid any attention to exactly how one actor succeeded the last or for how long.

Smith has two basic modes of delivery - low, deadly earnest and distracted/manic comic - and there are moments in either mode where he still sounds like a fannish kid doing a Tennant impersonation.

Hm. He doesn't really register to me as making any real attempt to imitate Tennant. (And Tennant, oftentimes, struck me as basing his performance on Tom Baker's.) In fact, most of the time, Smith registers to me as being more akin to Patrick Troughton than anyone else. He's the first actor since the revived series began not to primarily base his performance on Baker's, really.
 
^He's said in the past he's never really seen the show until after he got the role, and of what he's seen since getting the role Troughton is his favourite. I think anyway.
 
Nope, it's not that at all. Some folks just like one actor better than another. I don't care who-was-in-what-role-for-how-long-when - getting the old DW piecemeal as we did here, I never paid any attention to exactly how one actor succeeded the last or for how long.

Smith has two basic modes of delivery - low, deadly earnest and distracted/manic comic - and there are moments in either mode where he still sounds like a fannish kid doing a Tennant impersonation.

Hm. He doesn't really register to me as making any real attempt to imitate Tennant.

I don't know that he's making any such attempt - it's just what he sounds like at times, more with the manic than in his minor key. In any event, it wouldn't be a shock if the producers responded to familiar notes in his audition whether he was intentionally imitative or not. It may be his intention to sound like a kid who's been up too late eating Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs.
 
I'll play! To note, I'm going by a four star system in my head (like I always do), but I'm going to err on the side of caution -- if I think an episode is merely "okay," it's still going to be in the NO column.

Rose - no
The End of the World - yes
Aliens of London/World War Three - no
The Long Game - no
Boom Town - no
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways - yes
The Christmas Invasion - no
New Earth - no
Tooth and Claw - no
Love and Monsters - oddly, yes -- but barely
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday - yes
The Runaway Bride - no
Smith and Jones - yes
Gridlock - no
Utopia - yes
The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords - overall, yes (I feel like Utopia was separated from the other two parts so that Bones could give a yes without touching the last 15 minutes of the arc :) )
Voyage of the Damned - no
Partners in Crime - yes
Midnight - yes
Turn Left - yes
The Stolen Earth/Journey's End - no
The Next Doctor - no
Planet of the Dead - HELL no
The Waters of Mars - yes
The End of Time - yes

To save on time:
Yes: 12
No: 13
Overall percentage: 48%
 
Tennant would be my least favourite of the three modern Doctors.

Agreed. Tennant is, for me, probably the worst actor to play The Doctor. He brought nothing original to the role, and simply seemed to regurgitate previous actors. He never showed any real range, either. It was either "Zany Doctor" or "Shouty-Weepy Doctor". There was no real in-between. And I cringed every single time he attempted to bring gravitas to a scene. He and the writers never seemed to get that Tennant just couldn't be emotionally "moving". He could only shout and cry. I mean, unless you were some shallow tween or someone who wanted to fuck the actor. But, I ignore those people, as they worship at his altar for reasons that matter little to the subject of his performance.

Matt Smith has proven his acting superiority to Tennant by simply acting. His quiet, intensity is second only to Eccleston, and his ability to carry a scene with a look is rivaled only by Tom Baker. And his energy level is without question.

But, that's just me. :techman:
 
Tennant would be my least favourite of the three modern Doctors.

Agreed. Tennant is, for me, probably the worst actor to play The Doctor. He brought nothing original to the role, and simply seemed to regurgitate previous actors. He never showed any real range, either. It was either "Zany Doctor" or "Shouty-Weepy Doctor". There was no real in-between. And I cringed every single time he attempted to bring gravitas to a scene. He and the writers never seemed to get that Tennant just couldn't be emotionally "moving". He could only shout and cry. I mean, unless you were some shallow tween or someone who wanted to fuck the actor. But, I ignore those people, as they worship at his altar for reasons that matter little to the subject of his performance.

Matt Smith has proven his acting superiority to Tennant by simply acting. His quiet, intensity is second only to Eccleston, and his ability to carry a scene with a look is rivaled only by Tom Baker. And his energy level is without question.

But, that's just me. :techman:

I can't think of any of the Doctors in terms of "worst," and I can't dislike Tennant, either. With that said though, some of his mannerisms as the Doctor are common across a lot of his other characters, and I find that a little distracting no matter what work of his I watch. I don't really get that sense when I watch other Doctors in other roles.

Additionally, my brother and I love doing what we call the Tennant Run -- running around with great urgency but with both hands flailing in different circles at the same time. :)
 
Thanks to The's flawless reasoning I now imagine the folks at the Royal Shakespeare Company to be a bunch of giddy tweens checking their facebook pages on their phones every five minutes who want to get into Tennant's pants. I mean, they liked his acting, right? :p
 
Thanks to The's flawless reasoning I now imagine the folks at the Royal Shakespeare Company to be a bunch of giddy tweens checking their facebook pages on their phones every five minutes who want to get into Tennant's pants. I mean, they liked his acting, right? :p

Here in the States, the famed Julliard School gave us John Leguizamo, star of dozens of films by playing the same weaselly high-pitched wise-ass in comedies, dramas, action flicks, period pieces, and more. And I still like him :)

Yes, I just equated David Tennant to John Leguizamo, and no, I'm not sure I've fully thought out the analogy. But still...!
 
Thanks to The's flawless reasoning I now imagine the folks at the Royal Shakespeare Company to be a bunch of giddy tweens checking their facebook pages on their phones every five minutes who want to get into Tennant's pants. I mean, they liked his acting, right? :p

:lol: But, did they all want to fuck Tennant? That's the question... :p
 
I can't think of any of the Doctors in terms of "worst," and I can't dislike Tennant, either. With that said though, some of his mannerisms as the Doctor are common across a lot of his other characters, and I find that a little distracting no matter what work of his I watch. I don't really get that sense when I watch other Doctors in other roles.

I am pretty sure that Tom Baker has played the same character in everything he has ever appeared in.
 
It may be his intention to sound like a kid who's been up too late eating Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs.
I'm absolutely sure that's the motivation behind it, especially with moments like the bridge scene from the DVDs where the Doctor explains to Amy why he brings companions along with him, to recapture the excitement of the universe by living vicariously through them.

And I think based on people's comments that Sci has a point in that some people just want the familiarity of Tennant back. Was talking with a coworker about Doctor Who the other day, who's gf refuses to watch the new series without 10 and who's own opinion of Smith is that he's "just not 10". But don't go all pitchforks on me, I'm just offering my opinion (of your opinions ;)).

I do think it's funny The and Dennis have the same opinions, that the actor only has two modes, zany comedic and serious, but without being able to pull off serious. But they're referring to different actors while being absolutely in love with the other.
 
It may be his intention to sound like a kid who's been up too late eating Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs.

I'm absolutely sure that's the motivation behind it, especially with moments like the bridge scene from the DVDs where the Doctor explains to Amy why he brings companions along with him, to recapture the excitement of the universe by living vicariously through them.

I'll buy that for a dollar. Lacking Tennant's superior skills, though, it just enables Smith to come off as broadly funny. That's one of the things Smith can do.

I'd like to have seen more of Eccleston in the part - he had a little more gravity than his successors.
 
Rose - No
The End of the World - No
Aliens of London - No
World War Three - No
The Long Game - No
Boom Town - No
Bad Wolf - No
The Parting of the Ways - No
The Christmas Invasion - No
New Earth - No
Tooth and Claw - No
Love and Monsters - No
Army of Ghosts - No
Doomsday - No
The Runaway Bride - No
Smith and Jones - No
Gridlock - No
Utopia - No
The Sound of Drums - No
Last of the Time Lords - No
Voyage of the Damned - No
Partners in Crime - No
Midnight - No
Turn Left - No
The Stolen Earth - No
Journey's End - No
The Next Doctor - No
Planet of the Dead - No
The Waters of Mars - Yes
The End of Time, Part One - No
The End of Time, Part Two - No


1 Yes, 30 No's.

Disliked the smug prick since the first ep of Confidential. The man is a hack as far as im concerned who consistently sabotaged what could have been genuinely good stories with pathetic jokes and outright fanwank.

I mean seriously - a womans face in a paving slab making a joke about giving head. THAT HAPPENED. THAT SERIOUSLY HAPPENED. HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE SAY THATS GOOD IN ANY WAY?!?

I hate Russell T Davies with a passion and intensity that can only be imagined.
 
Rose - no
The End of the World - yes
Aliens of London/World War Three - no
The Long Game - no
Boom Town - no
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways - yes
The Christmas Invasion - yes
New Earth - yes
Tooth and Claw - no
Love and Monsters - no
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday - yes
The Runaway Bride - yes
Smith and Jones - yes
Gridlock - yes
Utopia - yes
The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords - no
Voyage of the Damned - yes
Partners in Crime - yes
Silence in the library/forests of the dead yes
Midnight - no
Turn Left - yes
The Stolen Earth/Journey's End - nyes
The Next Doctor - yes
Planet of the Dead - yes
The Waters of Mars - yes
The End of Time - yes

he's good but bad at the same time.. 1st season left much to be desired.. 3rd was okay..some of the 2nd was a bit lame...overall, he did bring us the time war era, and Rassilon..so not too much to complain about..

cept towing the Earth across space with a small police box..
 
I can't think of any of the Doctors in terms of "worst," and I can't dislike Tennant, either. With that said though, some of his mannerisms as the Doctor are common across a lot of his other characters, and I find that a little distracting no matter what work of his I watch. I don't really get that sense when I watch other Doctors in other roles.

I am pretty sure that Tom Baker has played the same character in everything he has ever appeared in.

Hm, I shall have to watch more Tom Baker stuff then. It's not to question you, I simply don't come across his stuff that often.
 
The Silver Chair, Blackadder, but most importantly-- interviews. I enjoy Tom a lot, but it's plain that he pretty much just plays himself whenever he's on screen! But it works.
 
Smith has two basic modes of delivery - low, deadly earnest and distracted/manic comic

While I think that's a fair point, I think he does both of those modes of delivery very well.

Eccleston convinced me as the last of the Time Lords and the gravity of his experience. Tennant had this ability to be goofy in a way that distracted you from everything else (and made you buy that the bad guy was distracted too). At first I didn't like him because he didn't convince me of the weight of the universe and his past being on his shoulders. Then there was a moment that clicked where I completely bought that to. Then there were times he could swagger in with confidence that made you buy that he was who he was whenever he was.

I don't think Matt Smith has quite reached that point. But there have been several subdued moments that have worked very well with him. I think his low/deadly earnest mode of delivery makes him seem older than he is. Not old enough to be 900 years old, mind you, but still more mature. In other words, I think he's growing into the role quite well and is getting better all the time.
 
Nope, it's not that at all. Some folks just like one actor better than another. I don't care who-was-in-what-role-for-how-long-when - getting the old DW piecemeal as we did here, I never paid any attention to exactly how one actor succeeded the last or for how long.

Smith has two basic modes of delivery - low, deadly earnest and distracted/manic comic - and there are moments in either mode where he still sounds like a fannish kid doing a Tennant impersonation.

Hm. He doesn't really register to me as making any real attempt to imitate Tennant.

I don't know that he's making any such attempt - it's just what he sounds like at times, more with the manic than in his minor key. In any event, it wouldn't be a shock if the producers responded to familiar notes in his audition whether he was intentionally imitative or not.

Which makes sense, since they are playing the same character, after all.

For myself, I treat it like I do when I see two different actors playing a character in two different productions of a stage play. I just remember that there are multiple ways of embodying and interpreting a character. Topol's Teve the Milkman is just as valid as Zero Mostel's for Fiddler on the Roof; Alan Cumming's Emcee is just as valid as Joel Grey's for Cabaret. Etc. It's just different incarnations of the same character.

The Silver Chair, Blackadder, but most importantly-- interviews. I enjoy Tom a lot, but it's plain that he pretty much just plays himself whenever he's on screen! But it works.

Some people are actors -- they are very good at pretending that they are other people. And some people are stars -- they are very good at pretending that other people are them.

Tom Baker is not an actor, he is a star.
 
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