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Spoilers Russell T. Davies' Second Turn as Doctor Who Showrunner

A lot of younger filmmakers make vertical webseries - shorts tailored to be watched on your phone vs TV.

I don't actually want this. But I don't entirely think its out of the realm of possibility if Doctor Who doesn't come back for another 17 years.
 
Ugh, I would hate that. I'm an old school photographer who strongly believed video should always be presented in landscape.

I get why portrait videos have become the go-to for the younger crowd, but the grumpier side of me cannot fathom why they can't just rotate the phone. Yeah, yeah, why can't I just do it?

Now, get off my virtual lawn!
 
Sorry for derailing the thread, but I get triggered by the term "Soft Reboot".



As frustrated as I get with IPs I like being 'retooled' for no real reason, I admire this viewpoint a lot, and might have to try and embrace it if whomever ends up in charge of producing the show decides to discard the 60+ years of history associated with it and start from scratch.
Ok, against my better judgement, I'll engage.

So, you're fixated on there's no canon for DW. Yet, here you're against retooling and starting from scratch.

Except, if there's no canon, then every episode is from scratch with no history. Using your own logic. :shrug:
 
People keep saying they just want series to tell good stories instead of having a message.

It seems to me that good stories always have something to say, whether intentionally or otherwise. The trouble with RTD's messages is that he often only got as far as filling in the subject line and left the rest blank. And even then he made some eye-rolling mistakes.

Dot and Bubble was pretty great though.
I've said that. I guess it's what should be the priority. I don't mind messages in a story. But telling a good story should be the priority. If they can fit in a good message, sure, no problem. I think that's pretty much what you're saying as well.

And I did like Dot and Bubble. One of my favorites of the era.
 
Deadline released a new report that highlights more details about what happened...and when to expect a return (spoiler: not any time soon):

Deadline contacted four respected UK drama producers to test their appetite for making Doctor Who. All had serious reservations about becoming a gun-for-hire.​
The producers said they worried about not owning the rights to a series that would likely become a significant drain on resources and creative energy. They also harbored concerns about funding for Doctor Who after the Disney deal, while some expressed more fundamental fears about whether the Time Lord remains relevant to young audiences.​
One top producer exclaimed that “you would have to be mad” to take on the show. “[It’s a] bit of a nightmare for any producer in this market with the shadow of the Disney fallout,” was the verdict of another highly-regarded producer.​
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Even if there is a frenzy for the contract, Doctor Who is expected to be off air for years as the BBC works out its future. The BBC has not given any timeline for when it will take Doctor Who to market, and when it does, it’s a process that can take up to six months, if the Casualty tender is anything to go by.​
Industry insiders think the show won’t return until 2028 at the very earliest, but even then, this is considered an outside bet. One producer predicted that Doctor Who could be rested for up to five years, and that the break would be good for the series.​
A person close to Doctor Who in recent years said the show will survive: “If you look at the longevity of Marvel, Star Wars, and Star Trek, these are valuable commodities over generations. The BBC is lucky to have one of these, and this should be no more than a bump in the road if they approach it properly.”​
Earlier in this thread, I was predicting 3-5 years of rest. And I think that's a good thing. Let time go by. Build up anticipation. Get their ducks in a row. Etc. Last thing we need right now is them rushing out with new DW.

They did that with RTD2. And it seemed good at the time. I certainly thought so! Now, not so much.

I don't think this is like 1989. There is much more institutional support amongst the executives in the BBC. They want to bring it back, even if they're not sure how and by whom.

Thanks for sharing the article!
 
Ok, against my better judgement, I'll engage.

So, you're fixated on there's no canon for DW. Yet, here you're against retooling and starting from scratch.

Except, if there's no canon, then every episode is from scratch with no history. Using your own logic. :shrug:

You're conflating things that have nothing to do with each other.

Doctor Who having no Canon means that there is not any one single narrative 'strand' of the IP that holds Authoritative 'precedence' over any other, not that there's not a narrative Continuity present within each of said 'strands'.

My initial objection to the possibility of a full-on Reboot was borne almost entirely out of my intense dislike of IPs I like changing course 'in the middle of proceedings' for no real reason and has no correlation to the Doctor Who IP's lack of a Canon.
 
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Seems to like RTD is really, really, super mad. Man he's pissed.
 
Other ways to be wrong, allegedly:

* thinking there was a script
* thinking he wrote it
* thinking anyone was approached to play the role
 
Yeah I'm not a sexist or homophobe. I strictly adhere to canon. Actually I never mentioned anything about LGBTQ so not sure where the homophobe bit came from. Let me guess no one who liked the newer shows are sexist and homophobe in your opinon. You're just mad that the show got rightfully canceled and will lash out at fans that didnt like it. So yeah I don't care if someone like you who hurls personal insults ever takes me serious. Bye.
Show hasn't been cancelled. It's basically on hiatus.
 
You're correct.

The only time the series was ever outright canceled was in 1985, but the decision was ultimately reversed and changed into a hiatus.

It was always the hiatus. The production office was not stood down, and even produced slipback.

Technically it has been cancelled this time, insofar as there was a special announced, which is now not going ahead.
 
And 1989 has what to do with 2026?

By the end of this year/early next year we'll know who is making the next series.

In 1989, it definitely, certainly wasn’t cancelled. No. It was just resting. Pining for the fiords. Looking for outside investors. Cinema Verity were going to it. Spielberg was going to do it…
Alan Yentob turned up a few years down to even tell us that it definitely certainly wasn’t cancelled, glued on the end of Thirty Years in the Tardis.

This is just 89 only instead of the bosses at the Beeb hating it and fans loving it, it’s a bit widdershins.

It’s a funny old echo. Back then we were worried cos the Tardis walls had been slung out in a skip. This time we are confused because the Tardis set is still standing as a handy date spot.
 
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