Russell T. Davies Returns to Doctor Who as New Showrunner

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  1. thribs

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    ITS A BRAND NEW DAY…
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    Toymaker makes more sense. I was thinking it was the Doctor’s son, finally being introduced.
     
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  2. Emperor-Tiberius

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    The Doctor's...son?
     
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  3. Timelord Victorious

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    I assume inference from him having a granddaughter. Susan would have had parents.
    And since Time Lords can change gender with regeneration, the same person can be a son or a daughter to the Doctor at different times.
     
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  4. The Real Slim Santa

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    The new trailer gave me goosebumps. :eek:
     
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  5. Timelord Victorious

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    Turn the clock to Zero, Doctor.
     
  6. jaime

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    Susan’s dad.
    I can see it tbh. Would mind it less than the TC stuff. The idea that a Doctors son just wanted to be a Toymaker, and it led to a radical falling out when the Doctor sacrificed him into a realm beyond time and space…
     
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  7. Rich Watson

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    Watching it again on a big screen I noticed that Kate can be seen wearing the same armband* that Mel has on in Bonnie Langford's publicity photo that was shot on the UNIT helipad. So I'd happily bet a large sum of money on Bonnie bring in the Specials now.

    One other funny moment is the Doctor's reaction at seeing Kate again, when from his point of view it's only been a couple of days since POTD.

    * A device to block the Toymaker's influence?
     
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  8. DarrenTR1970

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    An story idea proposed by William Hartnell, where the Doctor would have encountered another time traveling renegade who bore a striking resemblance to the Doctor.

    It would turn out to be the Doctor's son, angry that the Doctor left with Susan, his daughter, and set upon undoing the good that the Doctor and his companions were doing.

    It would allow Hartnell to play a dual role sans wig and costume.

    The producers rejected the story, but the idea of another time traveler became The Meddling Monk and Hartnell was allowed to play a dual role in The Massacre at St. Bartholomew Eve.
     
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  9. Emperor-Tiberius

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    That would've been lovely. I like the idea a lot! Kinda makes me wonder if any of his past incarnation looked his son as a subconscious nod to him....hm.
     
  10. Emperor-Tiberius

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    So, with the reveal that NPH is playing the Toymaker in the specials, perhaps The Celestial Toymaker would've been a much better and more apt candidate for a missing episodes animation than, say, The Underwater Menace? Get the NuWho fans antiquated with the character as he returns to the screen more than half a century later.
     
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  11. Qonundrum

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    For the animation of TCT, it's all in good time, I suppose. I suspect season 4's stories are getting priority for getting blu-ray sets out as more of it has already been done to acceptable standards or better. Season 3 is bound to be the last because a lot of it is missing and doesn't have the same grab as Troughton's era does.

    Not to mention, how do deal with the infamous line in part three? The audio release's narration gets around that easily enough. Just bleep the word? Have the original actor or similar voice artist say it as something else?

    As for the specials, I was hoping the Toymaker would be a bit less campy and Master-like, though teasers don't always reveal the whole of the story... All he does is remind me of "Time and the Rani" when the Rani now acted like the Master as well, though at least she was stuck with him in her TARDIS at the end of her previous story and now she's all hateful as well, but that's not a great explanation for her being different either. The story itself feels like standard Tennant era stuff* rather than celebrating the 60th anniversary, but - again - it's a teaser and is showing remarkably little. Am waiting with interest.

    * how often did Donna swear in her original run, anyway? She'll probably survive again anyway.​
     
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  12. Richard S. Claus

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    New trailer looks fantastic.
     
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  13. Qonundrum

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    Must every family member be explained? It demystifies the character and the show is generally more creative than that. Or should be for sci-fi. For his son to do something as if the writers looked at "Star Trek Insurrection" for inspiration just sounds corny, as if that movie succeeded with that trope anyway (it didn't). Also, about eight hundred episodes or so of Jerry Springer, or most 90s talk shows for that matter, faff about with the same topic of "kids versus their parents" as well.

    It's also "small universe syndrome" that the Doctor's involvement led to every other enemy he's had to deal with. Honestly, if that's the plot, and I hope it isn't, it's not being radically different, to say the least.
     
  14. Qonundrum

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    How so? it really feels generic, but maybe that's just me. I think we clearly differ on opinion, but the teaser feels like a string of cookie cutter cutout tropes, on modern day Earth again - what happened to "radically different" like what everyone was saying back in the day in the articles? Beep the Meep is also ET on Steroids. That's my stance, but it is just a teaser/trailer and not the actual story. It's bound to be different.

    I hope.
     
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    4 years!!!....and here i thought i had won the jackpot with 3 months for £1.99. Lol
     
  16. Richard S. Claus

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    You can be a Debbie-Downer if you want. I couldn’t give a fuck.

    I’m excited for:

    1) 10/Donna/Sylvia/Wilf
    2) NPH
    3) Beep the Meep
    4) RTD

    How radically different do you actually expect it to be? It looks like a trailer for Doctor Who and I like Doctor Who.

    Honestly, your own response to the trailer is more generic and cookie-cutter than the trailer itself. Aimless fan griping because a show is being advertised as all the things that show normally is.

    If you put away the tiresome cynicism then you might actually enjoy it. But then, you and I never saw eye to eye on Who back when I posted on Gallifrey Base.
     
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    It was a very nice introductory offer. It was also a much different time.
     
  18. Saul

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    Or the thinking is they'd sell more units after the specials when the character will be relevant and fresh in their minds.
     
  19. thribs

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    I might give this a watch. I haven’t seen Doctor Who since Capaldi. I assume nothing important happened since then?
     
  20. Gov Kodos

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    Donna and taking on the Doctor's choice to wipe her memory against her wishes. That's a decent story to tell while they run around with the timey wimey monster stuff.
     
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