Rumor: the show takes place between TOS movies and TNG

[Kelthaz]

I agree the anthology seems odd, but setting it after TUC isn't a problem. Expecting it to be set there to fill in holes is. Bryan Fuller wants to tell a story that will connect with viewers, the setting is the means of telling that story. If the story Fuller wants to tell fits in well in that timeframe, then great. But if the timeframe is picked to fill in holes, then there will be problems. Personally I'm willing to trust Fuller picked the timeframe for the right reason.

I have trouble seeing what sort of story could best be told in that timeframe. A prequel sandwiched between the 23rd and 24th centuries is going to severe handicap the writers. Are we getting to get more stories with the Ferengi or the Borg who conveniently never say their name?

 

[eyeresist]

Get hyped, boys. Devin Faraci is a pretty trusted source, no?

No.

@Greg CoxPeople give Faraci a lot of shit and he can be an asshole, but I believe he wouldn't run an article unless he has multiple sources saying the same things.

Isn't he the guy who said Suicide Squad was having reshoots costing tens of millions due to panic over BvS? And who asserted of SS that "every joke is in the trailer" (the first official trailer).

He is full of shit. As Kirk would say: Don't believe him! Don't trust him!

But wait, that's a quote from TUC .... Illuminati confirmed!


If I may continue with the wild speculation for a moment: I think the series is likely to be set in a previously overlooked quadrant of space, so whenever it is set, it will have fresh problems and protagonists.

 

[dbcooper]

Faraci is the guy who claimed he had a big, confirmed scoop with "An inside source says that Khan won’t be appearing in STAR TREK 2".

Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

 

[AvBaur]

He's been right about plenty of other things, though. A couple of major Marvel & Star Wars scoops, among others.

A couple of hours ago, he tweeted that he now has 4 sources confirming his story. This rumor is starting to look more solid to me. (Faraci apparently had only one source for the "no Khan in STID" story. Also, that one came out before the script was even finished, at which point Khan may very well not have been in the script.)

I do agree that it's annoying that a lot of sites are printing these rumors as fact, though.

 

[KennyB]

Meh...taking it with a huge grain of salt. The timeline/ship/setting really doesn't matter to me as long as it is well written. When there's an official announcement I'll actually think about it.........

 

[Campe]

I'm not opposed to this idea. It's not my favorite and I'm not sure that I'd watch but if it's what the fans want, it's what the fans want. I still believe we should wait until we hear from CBS before we get excited. Or enraged. I don't care how many people are verifying Faraci's word. Mainly because I have to ask how reliable those sources are. Are they legitimate industry sources? Or are they people claiming to have sources saying things? Sorry if I'm being overly negative, but I just am so sick of the rumor mongering around Trek these days. As has been said elsewhere: there are always so many rumors around Trek and not all of them are true. I still take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

[AviTrek]

I have trouble seeing what sort of story could best be told in that timeframe. A prequel sandwiched between the 23rd and 24th centuries is going to severe handicap the writers. Are we getting to get more stories with the Ferengi or the Borg who conveniently never say their name?

Star Trek has always been a mirror of our society and used a science fiction setting to tell a story that might be too controversial to tell in the real world. Going back to TOS, the Klingons represented the USSR. TUC and the Khitomer conference were about the fall of the Berlin Wall, the end of the cold war, and two enemies making peace.

Meyer has said he liked the political aspect of TUC. Well here we are 27 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Russia is no longer the super power it once was, but it's trying to re-assert it's influence. It's expanding back into Georgia and Crimea. It's using its influence in Syria. Well what does that look like in Star Trek? What happens when a former super power doesn't like it's reduced influence and tries to regain control? How do the Klingons behave? How does the Federation respond when the Klingons seize a bordering system? They're not enemies, but they're not fully allies yet either(It took 50 years between Khitomer and Ent-C).

If Fuller wants to tell a story mirroring the current US/Russia relationship and the struggles there, then setting it between TUC and TNG seems like the perfect time to me.

 

[Mudd]

Basing a show on "what the fans want" is a formula for mediocrity.

 

[Visitor1982]

Well, this sounds interesting. Not too sure about another prequel... but we'll see.

Some people knew for sure that the new TV series wasn't going to be in the prime universe...

I think it's the best of both worlds. The prime universe on TV and the JJ Abrams universe on the big screen. Fun for everyone!

 

[Dukhat]

A couple of hours ago, he tweeted that he now has 4 sources confirming his story.

He can have 50 sources confirming his story. The thing is, the "information" he originally posted was so vague that he's interpreted it in his own way. So 50 people can say the same vague things and that will just make him think his interpretation is even more correct.

That is, if he's even telling the truth about the 4 sources.

 

[Greg Cox]

Back when I was working on MAN OF STEEL and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, it often seemed that not a week went by that some bogus "rumor" didn't sweep the internet. I had to bite my tongue a lot since I KNEW for a fact that they were all bullshit . . . .

Unless it's official, it doesn't mean anything.

 

[BillJ]

A couple of hours ago, he tweeted that he now has 4 sources confirming his story.

I have 18 voices (all in my head) confirming my rumor that the new show is set in the year 1,000,000 and features the adventures of a Vulcan sex slave ship trapped in galaxy M-33. Where the captain ( a descendant of Jim Kirk) has made it his personal mission to teach the natives of the galaxy about love.

 

[Greg Cox]

I have 18 voices (all in my head) confirming my rumor that the new show is set in the year 1,000,000 and features the adventures of a Vulcan sex slave ship trapped in galaxy M-33. Where the captain ( a descendant of Jim Kirk) has made it his personal mission to teach the natives of the galaxy about love.

But is it canon?

 

[RAMA]

New rumor...

Rip Hunter will lead an intrepid team of Starfleet temporal troubleshooters in adventures in time and space. They may not be legends, but if they succeed, they will be remembered as..heroes.

RAMA

 

[Mr Awe]

I hope this is true. Not because I necessarily think this is the best time frame or setting. But because of the know-it-alls in here who informed us that it has to be in the JJ universe! That would be great!

Personally, I think a ST series could work in any universe and any time frame. It depends on the execution and stories. I suppose I have a slight preference for the Prime universe post-Nemesis, with enough distance time-wise so that things have changed enough that you don't have know the Prime universe to watch the series.

Mr Awe

 

[Dukhat]

New rumor...

Rip Hunter will lead an intrepid team of Starfleet temporal troubleshooters in adventures in time and space. They may not be legends, but if they succeed, they will be remembered as..heroes.

Rip Hunter....that's just all kinds of awesome right there.

I hope this is true. Not because I necessarily think this is the best time frame or setting. But because of the know-it-alls in here who informed us that it has to be in the JJ universe!

Who said that?

 

[Long Syntax]

Uggg - I'll watch it because, hey, it's Trek. However I'd prefer something set post dominion wars or further in order to give the writers more freedom. Shoehorning it between known timeframes in the prime universe seems too constraining and IMO boring(ish). A prequel or (a mid-quel) in ST could be a recipe for a fan civil war ala ST:ENT.

If the rumor does turn out to be true - queue the canon freaks, as they'll be all over this like flies on poo.

 

[RAMA]

I gave the odds of it being JJ Trek as 95%. I'm still going to go with 85% now..why? Because it makes the most sense. Kurtzman came on board and it seemed to be a given the show would be in the new timeline. Second, want a show without the baggage of prime trek? Want to keep the continuity Nazis off your back? Unlimited freedom within the 4 hours of JJ Trek we've seen? Want to keep it fresh, dynamic, fun and adventuresome? The place to set it is the JJ universe.

RAMA

 

[Mr Awe]

I love Klingons! Never enough Klingons!

I think the constraints set by the timeframe might be a good thing. It limits creating silly new technology and seven different races of superaliens. Sometimes limited palette is good, especially if you have talented artists, and I think they have a pretty solid team.

Agreed. With good writers, this is not a problem. There's been many excellent novels that were highly constrained to the timeline, which shows it's not necessarily a problem

Mr Awe

 

[Dukhat]

I would love for it to just be a straight reboot...like how nuBSG was a reboot of old BSG...and yet it still had many callouts and tributes to the original. That's what I'd like to see.

Agreed. With good writers, this is not a problem. There's been many excellent novels that were highly constrained to the timeline, which shows it's not necessarily a problem.

Yeah, that's why it didn't work with ENT. The Klingons there were no different than the Klingons we'd seen before. If they'd have been more like TOS Klingons then it might have been more interesting.