Royalty in the 23rd Century?

[-Brett-]

I have no idea why the British taxpayers tolerate the royal family, but for whatever reason, they do. Don't see any reason they'd be gone by the 23rd century.

 

[Gojira]

I have no idea why the British taxpayers tolerate the royal family, but for whatever reason, they do. Don't see any reason they'd be gone by the 23rd century.

Then you don't understand British history or economics. I read how very little the monarchy costs (it cause much less than a President in a republic) also they draw in a lot of income.

 

[JB2005]

I have no idea why the British taxpayers tolerate the royal family, but for whatever reason, they do. Don't see any reason they'd be gone by the 23rd century.

The Queen gives us £400 million, we give her £240 million...I don't understand why other countries don't understand economics, but for some reason they do.

 

[scotpens]

My friend's middle name is St. John. Poor chap.

I knew a doctor named Chipp St. Kevin Miller. And, of course, names preceded by “St.” or “Saint” are sometimes used as surnames (Jill St. John, Susan Saint James, Raymond St. Jacques). But I’ve never heard of anyone with “St. John” as a first name.

...OTOH, I could easily see laws being written against the use of titles of nobility, like in modern Germany.

In the U.S., the granting of official titles of nobility is prohibited by Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution:

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

But there’s no law against calling yourself the Duke of Suchandsuch or the Baron of Whatever. It’s just that, in America, most people with royal titles are either entertainers or delusional psychotics.

Wiki article: Emperor Norton

 

[Sharr Khan]

That's SAINT John Talbot, the book even makes a big deal about this as it confuses Caitlin Dar who can't figure out how Talbot is a saint. She herself is given a back story as to having a human grandfather, thus explaining her human name.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That's SAINT John Talbot, the book even makes a big deal about this as it confuses Caitlin Dar who can't figure out how Talbot is a saint. She herself is given a back story as to having a human grandfather, thus explaining her human name.

I kind of get annoyed when authors feel its necessary to do that. Why can't it be a Romulan name? Its not like other Trek Aliens dont have names that are duplicates of human ones and aren't in need of a human ancestor to explain them.

The Valaris is a Klingon name in the adaptation of STUC was equally annoying.

 

[Sharr Khan]

Oh I forgot about the obvious one. In the movie Spock clearly states that Sarek's first wife (Sybok's mother) was a Vulcan princess, not a priestess which it was rationalized into in the novelization.

Memory Alpha over thought that a bit btw: Spock stating that this unknown woman was Sarek's wife implies that they were in fact married, as thats the point of the title wife. Trekkies splitting hairs sometimes undoes them.

 

[Timo]

Indeed. There's no particular reason to think that St John was a saint, or that Caithlin Dar got her elvish ears from the Emerald Island, or that Vulcans don't have princesses (when they do have so many cute anachronisms such as duels to death).

OTOH, I did like that novelization's expansion on Sybok's background and motivations, and the little bits of added Klingon action. Even if it required changing the princess to a priestess. Which need not be two different things in the Vulcan society, of course; for all we know, they have a God for a King.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Colonel Midnight]

Doesn't one have to be somewhat DEAD to be a considered a Saint, anyway?

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[Sharr Khan]

Well yes dying helps with the whole sainthood thing. In the case of Dar, in the book I think its meant to illustrate her unfamiliarity with human culture.

 

[Gojira]

Doesn't one have to be somewhat DEAD to be a considered a Saint, anyway?

Cheers,
-CM-

In the Catholic Church, yes. In Protestant Churches, no.

 

[WillsBabe]

Really? If Prince William lives to be 90 he'll die in 2072. That's still a few decades from the 22nd century. Unless he has kids. Does he have kids? Maybe I missed something.

Maybe you are. Prince William isn't the youngest member of the British Royal family. I think that is Prince Edward's son (or if he counts, Princess Anne's grandson). They may well make it into the 21st century.

 

[T'Girl]

Barring accidents, our monarchy is expected to be able to survive (even without another generation being added) until around the beginning of the 22nd Century.

Really? If Prince William lives to be 90 he'll die in 2072. That's still a few decades from the 22nd century. Unless he has kids. Does he have kids? Maybe I missed something.

There are well over 2,300 heirs to the British throne, some of whom are only a few years old.

In the U.S., the granting of official titles of nobility is prohibited by Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution:

But it's not illegal for American citizens to hold royal titles.

It’s just that, in America, most people with royal titles are either entertainers or delusional psychotics.

Some modern day indigenous Native American nations have royal houses and IIRC there are also still princes and princesses of the Hawaiian royal family.

In the movie Spock clearly states that Sarek's first wife (Sybok's mother) was a Vulcan princess

Doesn't that make Sarek a Earl? And Sybok at least a prince himself.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

Barring accidents, our monarchy is expected to be able to survive (even without another generation being added) until around the beginning of the 22nd Century.

Really? If Prince William lives to be 90 he'll die in 2072. That's still a few decades from the 22nd century. Unless he has kids. Does he have kids? Maybe I missed something.

There are well over 2,300 heirs to the British throne, some of whom are only a few years old.

But it's not illegal for American citizens to hold royal titles.

It’s just that, in America, most people with royal titles are either entertainers or delusional psychotics.

Some modern day indigenous Native American nations have royal houses and IIRC there are also still princes and princesses of the Hawaiian royal family.

In the movie Spock clearly states that Sarek's first wife (Sybok's mother) was a Vulcan princess

Doesn't that make Sarek a Earl? And Sybok at least a prince himself.

Prince Spock??


I like the sound of that.










Here's Prince Spock wearing his crown.

I'm so very sorry

 

[Rom's Sehlat]

Being sorry is illogical. Illogic does not suit Vulcans. You are now disinvited to Prince Spock's coronation upon his Noble father's death.