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Ron Moore's Virtuality on tonight

Well, I enjoyed it. Me being me I was cheering for it to be the reality show producer that killed the captain. I generally cheer for the death of scum like that in movies and tv. :devil: Don't have much in the way of sympathy for cheaters whatsoever. The guy's wife could follow right after too. :techman:
 
Shit. I just watched it and really liked it.

So there really is no hope for this being picked up by anyone else since FOX is being idiotic as usual ? :(

1.81 million viewers...

Is that FOX's fault?


Ummm yes!

I haven't watch it yet, but i doubt it's a TV show that would have ever worked on network TV.

That said there wasn't a single ad for it, it was on Fridays in the summer, people are outside (unless you live in New England where it never stops raining), it's the summer!
 
I just realized that if the "earth in danger" subplot was made up it would lead to alot of unusable footage for the "studio". Otherwise the home audiences would be asking "wtf is the crew talking about the earth being in danger?". Of course, Ron being Ron, that's just the kind of plot hole I would expect.
 
I was under the impression that the shrink is also the editor and sends back completed episodes to earth, which is how they were able to keep quiet about the doctor's illness and whatnot. So if the shrink was also in on the fake danger, he could edit around that. But if he wasn't, well then people back home just think the astronauts are nuts. Or there are further edits by the studio.
 
I was rather underwhelmed...I can honestly say it had RDMs fingerprints all over it...and that's not a good thing. How much artificial angst did they have in just the first 45 minutes?

I was intrigued by the hook at the end (that was it's job)...but that's about it.
 
Telling someone that is so intimately into manga as to construct that scenario, unattributably does have a rape fantasy if she'd done a tenth of the reading required to be that immersed in the genre. Have you read much of that shit? There's a rape on every third page in even the most civil titles.

I liked it.

But the reality TV angel, was just bolloks. No one would watch that shit... Y'know unless it was faked, half the crew were being duped, the other half ai or actors maintaining the illusion to candid camera long con the rest fo them poor bastards: Truman show in space. :) There was an Episode of Doctor Who in the 70s like this. Faked Colony expedition.

And their private modules?

They too are so being broadcast back to earth too, for pay per view.

O.

I must look up the words to the munsters, since the theme to the show was an instrumental. Which is probably a clue. A blatant clue. What was she really singing?
 
I just realized that if the "earth in danger" subplot was made up it would lead to alot of unusable footage for the "studio". Otherwise the home audiences would be asking "wtf is the crew talking about the earth being in danger?". Of course, Ron being Ron, that's just the kind of plot hole I would expect.

Yes, because a reality show with a premise including the fact that the cast is being lied to for the added enjoyment of the viewing audience is absolutely unthinkable.
 
Maybe I picked this up from somewhere other than the telecast, but wasn't the deal that the Earth was in big danger before the launch and one of the reasons for the mission, but the brainiacs just thought we had a lot more time - that it was the acceleration of the ecological disaster that was unexpected?
 
Maybe I picked this up from somewhere other than the telecast, but wasn't the deal that the Earth was in big danger before the launch and one of the reasons for the mission, but the brainiacs just thought we had a lot more time - that it was the acceleration of the ecological disaster that was unexpected?

From what i remember the ship was originally launched just to go seek for intelligent life on Epsilon Eridani.
Then a few months into the journey the scientists made the discovery that Earth would become uninhabitable within a century.

So they changed the mission from alien life exploration to Earth rescue
 
What convenient drama no?

Work the ratings.

The stardrive just seems a little insane to be real, not that I haven't seen Larry Niven utilize the same theories, but they are wasting a shit load of energy by throwing the bomb outside, not that building a crucible which could capture the %85 of the shockwave they're letting away wouldn't seem a little super scientific...compared to dropping a 182 more bombs to build up to subluminal speeds.

Though what year is it? Scientist guy talking to his dead son said that the tech they were using to fly with was a hundred years old, which could asituate the story clear into the next century.

It was probably clearly legended in the beginning but I glazed over them setting the locus.
 
Funny how we meet the straight couple and they're slobbering all over each other. Then we meet the gay (male) couple and they're primly making dinner. I'm sure that's a coincidence, and it could just as easily have been the reverse. ;)

No great loss that this one crashed & burned in the ratings. I wouldn't have stuck with it anyway. Most of the characters are annoying or boring (putting them through stupid reality TV draaamas doesn't help) and the "hey maybe nothing is real!" ending is a huge disincentive to sticking with this, if it had been a series - why should I invest ten seconds just to find out none of the characters are real and they never left earth? The whole holodeck/reality/boogaloo routine is far too hackneyed and overdone to serve as an interesting premise anymore.

All that's left is to assess which of the actors are good enough to want to see in other things.

Clea Duvall - Always good, but jeezus, she should order her agent to get her a role that's anything besides "bitch on wheels." Getting typecast there, girl.

Jimmi Simpson - Showed real promise as the creeeepy evil dude. But another actor I'd like to see cast against type next time.

James D'Arcy, Omar Metwally - Cute, good actors. Bring them back in something.

Whoever played the engineer (?) with the dead son - Also a strong actor.

The rest, pfft. People need to stop casting Nikolai Costa-Waldou or whatever his name is in lead roles. His acting is stiff and unconvincing, and he's ugly as hell.

Not one of these people would have passed a simple psych exam, much less be allowed to go on this long mission.
They certainly did not strike me as the right group of people to send on a mission to save Earth. However, they might be a perfect gang of dysfunctional loons to populate a reality TV show that has nothing whatever to do with saving Earth, yet they are easily fooled into believing otherwise, being dense enough to think in their wildest dreams that anyone would entrust them with saving the whole planet. :rommie:
It doesn't really apply to this show since the supposed "earth's in danger" scenario didn't happen/get made up until after they were in space, but with these "we're saving the world by going into space" plots, shouldn't they send more than one ship out just in case? Hell, they sent two in Armageddon.
Yet another blaring clue that the threat to Earth is bullshit, yet these blazing geniuses can't figure it out simply by looking in the mirror and asking themselves, "Shit. Are we Earth's best?"
I haven't watch it yet, but i doubt it's a TV show that would have ever worked on network TV.
As much as people like to bash Fox, they called this one right. This premise is far too strained to work on either network or even nichey cable TV. The characters are too obnoxious and while the serial-killer-AI angle is fun, it won't keep people from changing the channel during the badly-written, self-important blather scenes, of which there are far too many.

I just realized that if the "earth in danger" subplot was made up it would lead to alot of unusable footage for the "studio". Otherwise the home audiences would be asking "wtf is the crew talking about the earth being in danger?".

That could be the premise of the reality show - the audience knows that the people have been lied to. Maybe part of the game is waiting to figure out how long it takes them to get a clue.
 
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Yes, because if there's any demographic group who's psychologically reliable, it's the immensely talented, obsessively hard-working genius-class.
 
People need to stop casting Nikolai Costa-Waldou or whatever his name is in lead roles. His acting is stiff and unconvincing, and he's ugly as hell.

I find him to be more appealing than 99 percent of the actors on television. It's not surprising that people don't identify with him though; his persona is much more subtle than the "meat and potatoes" most Americans crave.
 
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