Ron Moore open to returning to writing Star Trek...
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AH! "Gene’s Vision™" has arisen once again! Make no mistake... “Gene’s Vision™” was all about money.
I haven’t pulled this one out in a while, and I think it superlatively apropos at this juncture.
I haven’t pulled this one out in a while, and I think it superlatively apropos at this juncture.
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The current incarnation of that "disgraceful blight" is set in the TOS era.
That same era, under "Roddenberrian progressiveness and optimism" had humans, inter alia:
* Imposing the death penalty for visiting a planet
* Engaging in racism and sexism
* Acting as mail order brides to desolate worlds
* Being greedy conmen
* Experimenting on prisoners
* Framing their captain
* Reviving Nazism
S31 doesn't seem out of keeping with that at all.
Roddenberry's real push for "progressiveness and optimism" came in TNG, amid his increasingly erratic and outright nonsensical contributions. I don't think that's an anchor which should be tied to writers 30+ years later.
Prometheus was great and amazing, and had a lot to say about the human condition that many missed because they were too busy comparing what the crew of the Prometheus did to what people in Starfleet would do (forgetting that these people weren't in something like Starfleet, but were the first humans to get to another world making first contact with alien life.)
As for Spielberg and Lucas doing Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, for me, it worked very well, and fit Indiana Jones well (and also pointed to a way going forward for the franchise); rather than search for ancient artifacts in parts of the world, the search should be for alien 'artifacts' that are the results of crashes on Earth, or (in one idea I have for a future Indiana Jones movie inspired by a fanfic I read), the search is on for alien artifacts or human ones that are scientific in nature and design (my idea for a future Indiana Jones movie-most likely the last one-is Jones getting caught up in a search for a device that could be used to solve energy problems on Earth, like an alien device that can generate energy or one that uses solar energy to power things-Indiana Jones & The Solar Grail could be the title- and have it set in the early-to-mid '60's, evoking James Bond in Dr. No, with the enemy NOT being the Soviets, but a multinational/multiracial organization similar to SPECTRE who wants it for destructive purposes.) This would be a logical follow-up to the ascetic of Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull that Lucas and Spielberg fostered in that movie.
With regards to Cameron and the Terminator franchise, although I liked the current movie, I feel that there may be no more stories to tell in that universe, and Cameron should focus on more Avatar movies.
Said 'increasingly erratic and outright nonsensical contributions' were the result of Roddenberry's substance abuse, and also old age, both products of his personal failings and his senior ego which had him believe that he could still be the showrunner of a TV show when he (and everybody else around him) pretty much knew he couldn't.
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After Battlestar reboot, Moore redoing some element of the trek universe would be amazing.
The target audience has matured in the past couple of decades. NuBSG (and, yes, DS9 to some degree) contributed to that maturity. If he came back, it would be fine.
The audience was always there I just think that the content was lacking forever, writers like Moore finally took it to that place.
^^this
^^ A lot of compelling arguments for pros and cons were made. But you won me over. Berman did a lot of good for the show but seasons 5-7 were such a damp rag. Moore given reign and reins would be fascinating to observe, indeed.
Behr? He hates TNG and wanted to undermine it all he could. He did not believe that humanity could be better, and that is basically the core concept of Star Trek. And his greatest sin of course is inventing the Section 31, an utterly toxic concept that has continued to poison Trek ever since. I really have no need for cynical dark Trek where warcrimes are glorified.
The series I'd like to see is to see a show in the ST: Picard era focusing on the long term fallout of the Dominion war, one that has mostly new characters but can have cameos from a free selection of all the Berman era Treks, and focuses on the question of whether to stay with Federation principles or become more militaristic and fearful that the next Dominion will come along.
Can't think of anyone better for that series than Ron Moore.
Can't think of anyone better for that series than Ron Moore.
Moore got Shatner's Kirk off the damn stage; for that alone, he should be in charge of a Trek show - preferably a TOS reboot.
If memory serves, Alan Dean Foster said in a Starlog interview that he would have been liked Kirk and Spock to be killed off in a movie, and for the franchise to go on with new characters.
I view Battlestar Galactica as the final destination of The Ron Moore endeavor to tell a dark serialized war epic set in a Star Trek type universe. It was the pinnacle in Moore's consistent progression towards darker serialized war stories that he edged towards in the later seasons of TNG( Season 6's Chain of Command comes to mind) and which were intensified during his contributions to DS9. He ever came back to Star Trek he'd have to contribute something more than just Battlestar Galactica 2.0 because he took that to it's logical end already. How do you go darker than that? I think he got it out of his system when he could make NuBG and pee on every Gene Rodenberry/Rick Berman prohibition that he hated.
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Ron Moore was one of the hired hands who met the Rick Berman checklist for the first TNG feature film. I don't know if he came up with the idea of killing off Kirk. Shatner is the one who signed the dotted line in 1994. He let his character be killed off when he had at least 20 years of Kirk left in him. He saw a far older Nimoy and Patrick Stewart return to Star Trek for kudos and good money and I think he knows dying in 1994 was a mistake on many levels.Moore got Shatner's Kirk off the damn stage; for that alone, he should be in charge of a Trek show - preferably a TOS reboot.
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