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Rogue One (2016) [SW Anthology Series)

Not to sad, at least their replacing him with a great composer. This is actually the first I've learned that John Williams isn't doing the music, it'll be weird getting a SW without a Williams score.
 
JD said:
Not to sad, at least their replacing him with a great composer. This is actually the first I've learned that John Williams isn't doing the music, it'll be weird getting a SW without a Williams score.
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For the movies, sure, but it's hardly the first time someone other than Williams has composed Star Wars music. Knights of The Old Republic, Clone Wars and Rebels all leap to mind.
Plus, by all accounts Rogue One is a war movie, so a slightly different approach than the traditional classical opera style seems in order.
 
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I imagine there will be a number of known Williams musical queues in the film. There are some things that stay because they are expected and desired. You can hear that in TCW and Rebels music.
 
Ithekro said:
I imagine there will be a number of known Williams musical queues in the film. There are some things that stay because they are expected and desired. You can hear that in TCW and Rebels music.
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Well yeah, you can even hear as much right from the top of the first trailer. A very slowed down solo piano version of Luke's/The Force Theme (I think.) It's to be expected since the music and themes of Star Wars are just as much part of the vocabulary as the visuals.
 
Mixed feelings about Giacchino, to be honest. Though I'm sure I've likely seen several movies he's done the score to, I'm too lazy to look him up right now, but based on his work in the Trek movies, again mixed. "Enterprising Young Men" is a catchy tune, unfortunately it utterly and completely dominates Trek XI and STID making it very easy to turn one off the theme. Granted, that's less Giacchino's fault, and more Abrams or the editor of the movies. And indeed, in Beyond although the theme is still very prominent throughout the movie it doesn't seem to dominate it.

As far as Rogue One is concerned though as long as that combination of the main SW theme and The Imperial March done on a piano is still featured in the movie, I'll be satisfied.
 
I'd guess that particular composition was specifically for the trailers. I find it hard to imagine that making it into the score of the final film.
 
Venardhi said:
I'd guess that particular composition was specifically for the trailers. I find it hard to imagine that making it into the score of the final film.
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How so? Seems like a fairly conventional modern film score, just with 'the force' and 'the imperial march' themes integrated into the melody. I could easily see it as part of the final score.
 
Unlike the prequel trailers, which used older Star Wars music cut into a collage of themes, the Rogue One trailer music is a new take on the older music.
 
From what I understand, Rogue One will use the standard Star Wars fan fare with the opening titles. Weather that be opening crawl or not.
 
Reverend said:
How so? Seems like a fairly conventional modern film score, just with 'the force' and 'the imperial march' themes integrated into the melody. I could easily see it as part of the final score.
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I could very well be wrong but, while I see room for riffs on those themes (or at least their most recognizable leitmotifs) to make it into the film's score, that particular composition in the first teaser practically screams "trailer music" to me. There's certainly more to the second one but then we've just seen a new composer come on board so at this point I'm dubious even if that was from the score if it would survive in any recognizable form to the final product.
 
To my ears it sounds like a bunch of different ques that have been cut together, not one piece composed as a whole. Indeed that's almost never the case with trailer music anyway. 99% of the time trailer music is either from the movie itself, tracks from the temp score or a needle drop.
Needless to say that last option is out of the question and since Star Wars trailers can only really use music from other Star Wars movies if the new score isn't ready yet, and given that this is obviously a new composition, it's almost certainly from the movie. Or at least the early work on the score before they start dialling it into the final edit.
 
JD said:
I don't think it was ever confirmed, but I believe there was a rumor a few months back that the anthology movies wouldn't have opening crawls.
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On the one hand, I like the idea of the Anthology series not having crawls to differentiate them from the main episodes. But on the other hand, everything Star Wars-related has crawls or something similar. The new Disney novels all have text at the beginning that serve the purpose of the crawl, Clone Wars had those opening narrations. So it is going to be odd to see a full length SW movie without a crawl.
 
Reverend said:
To my ears it sounds like a bunch of different ques that have been cut together, not one piece composed as a whole. Indeed that's almost never the case with trailer music anyway. 99% of the time trailer music is either from the movie itself, tracks from the temp score or a needle drop.
Needless to say that last option is out of the question and since Star Wars trailers can only really use music from other Star Wars movies if the new score isn't ready yet, and given that this is obviously a new composition, it's almost certainly from the movie. Or at least the early work on the score before they start dialling it into the final edit.
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You might be surprised how many trailers get their own specialty compositions and how few come from the film's score. Some people even specialize in doing scores for trailers, like John Beal.
 
The Wormhole said:
On the one hand, I like the idea of the Anthology series not having crawls to differentiate them from the main episodes. But on the other hand, everything Star Wars-related has crawls or something similar. The new Disney novels all have text at the beginning that serve the purpose of the crawl, Clone Wars had those opening narrations. So it is going to be odd to see a full length SW movie without a crawl.
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Rebels doesn't have a crawl or narration, just the title screen. As long as it still feels like Star Wars, I'm fine without it.
 
I think the Saga movies having a crawl and the anthology/A Star Wars Story movie not, is a nice way to differentiate the series.
 
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