This is kind of my feeling too, though they do look pretty cool. They might be considered specialist troopers assigned to the Grand Admiral for this mission.
Rogue One (2016) [SW Anthology Series)
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Could be. Just seems odd they didn't give us say, a variant of the Scout Trooper as one and a variant of the Gunner or AT-AT drivers' helmets for another rather than come up with all new designs that only raise the question of where the hell they were in the other movies.
Yes, it does. But, then, almost every spinoff material has some sort of specialist style stormtrooper that was never seen in the films proper (Shadow Troopers, Swamp Troopers, among others)
The new armor feels like a combination of many different designs, including some clone inspiration. So, as odd as it might sound, these "new" troopers" maybe older or experimental variations of trooper armor not rolled out for full duty.
We saw some variant Clone Trooper armor in Revenge of the Sith.. So it might just be that some units get different stuff, while the majority of the army of stormtroopers have the regular armor.
Though what does that say about Palpatine's army if his best Legion is all in standard gear (on Endor). Is it his best that he has left. He didn't call in specialty troopers, just his best stormtrooper legion (likely the 501st since Vader was their, depending on how many are left).
Though what does that say about Palpatine's army if his best Legion is all in standard gear (on Endor). Is it his best that he has left. He didn't call in specialty troopers, just his best stormtrooper legion (likely the 501st since Vader was their, depending on how many are left).
More Uniform variants= more collectibles, model kits and action figures.
Sort of like the Iron Man school of merchandising...
Capitalism aside, I do like having specialized equipment, makes the on screen military seem more like a diverse fighting force.
One in Universe potential reason is that most of the TIE & Stormtroopers we have seen in the original trilogy were ship based, in Rogue One we will be seeing more planet based forces.
Sort of like the Iron Man school of merchandising...
Capitalism aside, I do like having specialized equipment, makes the on screen military seem more like a diverse fighting force.
One in Universe potential reason is that most of the TIE & Stormtroopers we have seen in the original trilogy were ship based, in Rogue One we will be seeing more planet based forces.
I know it's a bit pedantic, but the line: "an entire legion of my best troops..." always bothered me a little since there's no way what we saw was anything like legion strength. A legion is meant to be *thousands* of soldiers. We saw maybe a few dozen, which isn't even a single cohort. More like platoon strength.
That means either Imperial Legions are *tiny*, they Emperor was full of crap or the ground battle on Endor covered a *lot* more ground than what we saw at the bunker entrance. That last possibility is the one I find the most interesting since I never got a very good sense of the extent of the facility or it's layout. Most of it seems to be underground with both the landing platform and the rear entrance spaced several miles apart from one another.
The idea that the Ewoks aren't just ambushing a few dozen troopers and a pair of walkers but opening up on fronts all around forest makes it feel much more epic. Also, it's a good way to account for why the AT-AT we saw wasn't put into play. It's a safe bet that if that thing showed up at the bunker, things would have played out *much* differently.
You'd have thought most of those were wiped out in the Battle of Yavin. Has it ever been confirmed if Vader's Star Destroyer was still docked when the thing blew, or did it just drop him and Leia off and bugger off elsewhere?
That means either Imperial Legions are *tiny*, they Emperor was full of crap or the ground battle on Endor covered a *lot* more ground than what we saw at the bunker entrance. That last possibility is the one I find the most interesting since I never got a very good sense of the extent of the facility or it's layout. Most of it seems to be underground with both the landing platform and the rear entrance spaced several miles apart from one another.
The idea that the Ewoks aren't just ambushing a few dozen troopers and a pair of walkers but opening up on fronts all around forest makes it feel much more epic. Also, it's a good way to account for why the AT-AT we saw wasn't put into play. It's a safe bet that if that thing showed up at the bunker, things would have played out *much* differently.
You'd have thought most of those were wiped out in the Battle of Yavin. Has it ever been confirmed if Vader's Star Destroyer was still docked when the thing blew, or did it just drop him and Leia off and bugger off elsewhere?
Since the Death Star commander, Admiral Motti (I believe) was not concerned about needing an Imperial fleet presence, I doubt any Star Destroyers were deployed with the Death Star. Also, Vader would likely have his own contingent of troops at his disposal, regardless of their unit affiliation. Especially since it had been three years since the first Death Star.
In Lost Stars it did just that.
Motti wasn't the Death Star commander, was he? I thought Jerjerrod was.
Jerjerrod commanded the second Death Star.
^ Whoopsies.
After reading the new Marvel comics I'm not so sure the latter is really the case. In the interim between ANH & tESB he doesn't seem to have much in the way of any resources at his beck and call and as a result, must get very creative. Likewise when he shows up in Rebels he certainly has the authority of the Emperor but doesn't come with his own resources, just takes command of those already there. It's not until just before tESB that he gains control of the Executor and only then it seems so that he can (officially) hunt for the rebel base. Unofficially, he's after Luke who the Emperor doesn't yet know exists.
This actually fits a little better with the notion that he's this feared and mysterious agent and enforcer of the Emperor's will. If he's always running around with thousands of troopers and all of their logistical support in tow then he's suddenly just a strangely dressed General.
I thought that might be the case, but I wasn't sure.
Tattooine, The Forest Moon, Hoth; we've seen ground-based specialty forces already. I would have just appreciated a bit more shared design language.
Darth Vader's star destroyer in A New Hope survived until the Battle of Endor when it was destroyed by a squadron of B-wings.
General Tagge survived the Death Star because he went with the detachment to investigate Dantooine, and was promoted following the lose of the Death Star. Tagge might have used Vader's star destroyer for that run and this had Vader's troop with him.
General Tagge survived the Death Star because he went with the detachment to investigate Dantooine, and was promoted following the lose of the Death Star. Tagge might have used Vader's star destroyer for that run and this had Vader's troop with him.
I know we have seen ground troops in action, my point is that they could have been based on a Star Destroyer and sent down to the surface for that particular mission. Hoth had no garrison, the troops, ATATs & such were landed specifically for that Rebel Base assault. We saw a Sentinel Lander dropping off troopers on Tantooine and the Emperors had his personal troops involved on Endor which implies they were not part of the normal operations there but again brought in for the specific task of defeating the Rebel attack on the defense shield generator.
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Also, in the comics, he is creating his own resources to be able to move against the Emperor, so it would stand to reason that they would not be Imperial military resources.
ANH I would agree with, though the stormtroopers on the Tantive IV seemed more deferential than the rest of the Imperial officers on the Death Star. But, it would seem that in ESB he has far more military assets at his disposal to hunt the Rebels.
Also, in the comics, he is creating his own resources to be able to move against the Emperor, so it would stand to reason that they would not be Imperial military resources.
But Kyle Katarn is definetly screwed.