Rogue One (2016) [SW Anthology Series)
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I think this was just shown as a treat for the fans in attendance and the general public won't be able to see anything official until closer to fall. Paramount has put a moratorium. on anything being widely promoted until after Mission Impossible Rogue Nation has made it's way through the theaters this summer. Something to do with the word Rogue and Paramount registering their title first. Which probably also explains why the live feed didn't cover the event.
Thanks Tom Cruise.
Thanks Tom Cruise.
Got to get your head out of the "well in the old EU" mindset - it's a box that does not exist - you keepers of the lore are in the dark with the rest of us.
Yet more reason why fandom is just a waste of time. People telling other people what to do just because of differing points of view about a given mythos.
Remember when fandom used to be fun and friendly...and tolerant?
About the only exception I took to the whole "Alderaan is peaceful, we have no weapons..." plea is: How does one explain the Tantive IV, an armed consular ship registered to The Royal House of Alderaan? 
Well they explains the postion of her people but doesn't preclude the empire having forces there. Anyho given this is teaser footage - it may only have a distant relationship to the actual film.
About the only exception I took to the whole "Alderaan is peaceful, we have no weapons..." plea is: How does one explain the Tantive IV, an armed consular ship registered to The Royal House of Alderaan?
Diplomatic immunity.
Actually I think it is a ship registered with the Imperial Senate. It is painted in the old traditional diplomat red trim.
If the Empire has forces on Alderaan, they would have found out about what the rebellion was doing long before Vader finally caught Leia's ship.
I'd agree.
The ship might be registered to Imperial Service (since Bail and Leia were members of the Imperial Senate themselves.). It carries the System Crest of Alderaan (according to Vader in the novel and Marvel comics adaptations). And granted, one armed starship does not a military force make.
The red trim does indicate diplomatic/consular status...and it is implied that opening fire on a ship so marked results in the most severe punishment. Of course, the Empire thumbs its nose at such notions.
The ship might be registered to Imperial Service (since Bail and Leia were members of the Imperial Senate themselves.). It carries the System Crest of Alderaan (according to Vader in the novel and Marvel comics adaptations). And granted, one armed starship does not a military force make.
The red trim does indicate diplomatic/consular status...and it is implied that opening fire on a ship so marked results in the most severe punishment. Of course, the Empire thumbs its nose at such notions.
I'd agree.
The ship might be registered to Imperial Service (since Bail and Leia were members of the Imperial Senate themselves.). It carries the System Crest of Alderaan (according to Vader in the novel and Marvel comics adaptations). And granted, one armed starship does not a military force make.
The red trim does indicate diplomatic/consular status...and it is implied that opening fire on a ship so marked results in the most severe punishment. Of course, the Empire thumbs its nose at such notions.
And yet there were dozens of armed Alderaanian guards on the ship, plus Leia shot one trooper right between the eyes.
Yeah, that line never made a whole lot of sense no matter which way you cut it. Even if she's talking in terms of planetary defence batteries or orbital platforms it's not like that'd be relevant. It probably one of those things best not over analysed.
I'd agree.
The ship might be registered to Imperial Service (since Bail and Leia were members of the Imperial Senate themselves.). It carries the System Crest of Alderaan (according to Vader in the novel and Marvel comics adaptations). And granted, one armed starship does not a military force make.
The red trim does indicate diplomatic/consular status...and it is implied that opening fire on a ship so marked results in the most severe punishment. Of course, the Empire thumbs its nose at such notions.
And yet there were dozens of armed Alderaanian guards on the ship, plus Leia shot one trooper right between the eyes.
Yeah, that line never made a whole lot of sense no matter which way you cut it. Even if she's talking in terms of planetary defence batteries or orbital platforms it's not like that'd be relevant. It probably one of those things best not over analysed.
Agreed.... Me 'ead starts 'urtin' when ah try to o'eranalyse!
Senate provided troops (probably not, but possible). And Leia? Royal privilege (plus being a Rebel). I think the Radio Drama had her taking her first life in the bits that take place before the film's beginning. There is a whole bit about her, Bail and I think a Lord Tion over how does she know about the Death Star (by name). Also an earlier bit were she encounter's Lord Vader while she's running a blockade (where they get information from a Rebel about the Death Star, but not the plans). The knowledge of the Death Star existing and the killing of Lord Tion (in self defense I think) was what caused Bail to send Leia to find General Kenobi. Only on the way did they divert to a blockaded system where they pickup a transmission from Rebel spies (R2 and 3P0 being the decoy excuse for her ship even stopping in the systems). They managed to escape, thinking they could evade the Empire in hyperspace, but Vader tracked them personally, jump after jump, to Tatooine, where the movie starts.
Now that planet could be where Rogue One takes place, than a cameo being Leia's ship and Darth Vader's ship at the end as they go off to be in A New Hope. In that case it is not so much small universe, but the lead up to A New Hope that requires those character be there for the next story to happen.
If that is what the story is about. (though I seem to recall about maybe a dozen stories about how the Death Star plans were stolen. One of which tangently involves Han Solo, but only for his connection to the female leader of that Rebel group. The old EU sources would basically gather up all the various stories and had each of them have stolen a part of the Death Star plans, or enough copies of it to me sure the plans were complete. The last story being the one with Han's ex-girlfriend or partner, that sent the transmission of all these gathered plans to Leia. Though if I recall, none of those Rebels on the planet survived. In fact, if we take Leia's ship into account I think the only survivors of that plan were Leia, R2, and 3PO. That is assuming any of her ship's crew were kept captive on the Death Star instead of just executed or taken to another location by Vader's Star Destroyer.
Now that planet could be where Rogue One takes place, than a cameo being Leia's ship and Darth Vader's ship at the end as they go off to be in A New Hope. In that case it is not so much small universe, but the lead up to A New Hope that requires those character be there for the next story to happen.
If that is what the story is about. (though I seem to recall about maybe a dozen stories about how the Death Star plans were stolen. One of which tangently involves Han Solo, but only for his connection to the female leader of that Rebel group. The old EU sources would basically gather up all the various stories and had each of them have stolen a part of the Death Star plans, or enough copies of it to me sure the plans were complete. The last story being the one with Han's ex-girlfriend or partner, that sent the transmission of all these gathered plans to Leia. Though if I recall, none of those Rebels on the planet survived. In fact, if we take Leia's ship into account I think the only survivors of that plan were Leia, R2, and 3PO. That is assuming any of her ship's crew were kept captive on the Death Star instead of just executed or taken to another location by Vader's Star Destroyer.
The red trim does indicate diplomatic/consular status...and it is implied that opening fire on a ship so marked results in the most severe punishment. Of course, the Empire thumbs its nose at such notions.
I wondered why the X-Wings also had red trim- "don't shoot at use- we are having 'aggressive negotiations' "...
No, I don't really remember much about the pre-internet days.
I don't really see what is unfriendly about pointing out that all that stuff was shitcanned so trying to explain what has happened in terms of the EU actually provides an artificial limit that does not exist. If people want to say 'well in my head canon...' which is fair enough but it's unrelated to reality.
Sure people can have 'differing views' but the key view is Lucas films throwing it in the tip.
Sure people can have 'differing views' but the key view is Lucas films throwing it in the tip.
I can't ever remember a time of fandom being fun, friendly and tolerant.
My apologies about my "remember when" question.
Richard Baker, your point about the red lines on X-wings is hilarious...and totally throws the whole "red trim on corvettes" notion on its ear.
Richard Baker, your point about the red lines on X-wings is hilarious...and totally throws the whole "red trim on corvettes" notion on its ear.
Is it really a case of small universe in an instance where people being in the same general area isn't that far fetched?
You could make this a Vader film in which he hunts down and kills all of them one by one leaving the last one who manages to escape or get the plans away before they are killed - because part of the "there are no Jedi" might also be "there are no Jedi to save you from that Sith Lord in the black hat" though that might make it a little dark... but it would be a way to use one of the (if not) most popular characters in the franchise.