Roberto Orci Not Directing Trek XIII
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I would laugh my ass off if Orci got fired with the words "That's why someone else gets to direct the movie, and you don't." 
This is older, currently the movie is at 4.2/5 with over 306,000 people voting. In addition, while it underperformed at the theater, it did very well on home video.
That was a joy to watch - the folks he engaged with had it coming, and he made them unhappy. Win.
The plot synopsis sounds fine, for a synopsis and as a way to bring the trilogy back to its beginnings. Some fans are "sick of time travel?". Boo-fucking-hoo...the real truth is that as a plot device it's been as close to a guarantee of success as exists for Trek.
In any event, doubtless there was no problem with the script that the studio suits don't think can be fixed by more explosions, fights and less talking between characters - the goal here, after all, is an international blockbuster, and old trek fans bring absolutely nothing to the table where insight or support for making that happen is concerned.
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http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/14/star-trek-into-darkness-voted-worst
That was outside of "the interwebz". And it was from folks at the largest gathering of Trek fans from around that were world voting on it - to say thats not representative in some capacity is silly.
EDIT: And I just realised you were talking about the movie going audience at large - fair enough. But considering the only sure fire market for Trek movies are Trek fans, I think its a point worth considering.
And the reason it got any traction in the mainstream press is that it makes fun of Trekkies for being disconnected from reality.
Orci posted these messages on Trekmovie:
196. boborci - December 6, 2014 I will be very involved
199. boborci - December 6, 2014 still excited to makeTrek 3! And on time. We’ll find the right director!
201. boborci - December 6, 2014 no time travel was ever considered, fyi
So he debunked that ridiculous synopsis completely.
Interesting.
Amenthe goal here, after all, is an international blockbuster, and old trek fans bring absolutely nothing to the table where insight or support for making that happen is concerned.
Actually, I think he'd be a poor choice. From what I gather, he ended up stripping Jonathan Nolan's Interstellar screenplay of most of the Trekkiest elements (aliens, most of the planetary exploration). And my least favorite aspects of the film are there because C. Nolan refused to bend on them. It's mostly an impressive film, but in some ways I feel that C. Nolan was the weakest link in its team.
Which is exactly what's happening now with the start of successful, half a million dollar Kickstarters for fan films.
The Trekkies are voicing their opinion with their money. Sure, its but a drop in the ocean compared to the blockbusters Paramount need, but if the fanbase that does eat up the merchandise is off enjoying things they have absolutely zero input over, thats the start of Paramount losing the hook for their franchising plans. Surely they know the only remedy for that is good content? AKA the Marvel model. It's pretty obvious the reason they've had hit after hit after hit is because they make good films. Maybe the suits are getting wise to that fact and booted Orci because his story and plans seemed...well, shit? Sure, there's no accounting for taste...unless they suddenly felt like applying internal consistency and logic to scripts. That'd shoot down something like Into Darkness pretty fast.
The best thing that could happen in my opinion is for J.J. to come back. I know it's extremely unlikely, but if Spielberg could shoot Schindler's List in Poland while supervising post-production on Jurassic Park at a time when digital communication was far less advanced than it is now, I don't see why it would be impossible.
This is older, currently the movie is at 4.2/5 with over 306,000 people voting. In addition, while it underperformed at the theater, it did very well on home video.
It's getting utter ridiculous not to mention old how some people insist that these movies are a flop when they obviously aren't.
Get. real.If anything, those who liked the movies just fine are likely to be the ones who don't participate to online forums. Not the contrary.
Since always, haters had always been the most vocal online.
Why do people even think disney wanted JJ in the director's chair for star wars? It's obvious that they hoped he'd do well with SW like he did with trek. I'm not even sure they'd even invest in new SW movies at all had them not saw that the trek reboot went so well in spite of the fact that many in the business thought that the franchise was dead and they wouldn't gain more money from it.
