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Spoilers Rings of Power Season 2 Rating and Review and Discussion Thread: Spoilers inside.

I don't know if in the first episode it was supposed to be a warg or a proto-warg or something... but man the effects on it looked really rough. I guess it was a one-off and not something they refined and planned to use again so it didn't get a lot of attention.

The show continues to have abrupt time-cuts and skips. Sometimes it makes it difficult to understand when something is occurring just knowing "ok, travelling from here to here should take a certain amount of time" and then you see the travel skipped over, but then we move to another set of characters in a different area and their story seems to have barely progressed at all chronologically even though we just spent time with a different group which would have been weeks of travel.
 
Thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes. Didn't care for the third. I really dislike the Numenor storyline, characters and actors. It's a trifecta of meh. Sink it already!:lol:
 
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Galadriel looks like the Madonna in a Renaissance painting in this picture.
 
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Galadriel looks like the Madonna in a Renaissance painting in this picture.
Fitting, given Tolkien's Catholic leanings.

I don't know if in the first episode it was supposed to be a warg or a proto-warg or something... but man the effects on it looked really rough. I guess it was a one-off and not something they refined and planned to use again so it didn't get a lot of attention.
Thought it was a Warg, and looked fine enough for me. The Darkness of the scenes were annoying but other than that it was ok.
 
I just finished the first episode, and it was a good start to the season.
The flashack covered a lot more time than I expected.
The drama with the Elves and the rings was pretty good, I can see why both sides felt the way they did. Although since we know Elves continue to wear them all the way up the end of The Third Age, that they must no be too bad in the long term.
Definitely curious if Gil-Galad's messenger beat Sauron to Celebrimbor. Either way, it must not take long for him to figure out what's going all, since we already know Sauron's future dealings with him are as Annatar and not Halbrand.
I'm thinking Adar is probably not going to be happy when he finds out that he had Sauron and let him go.
Hmm, so it looks like The Stranger is going to need his staff to get control of his magic, and possibly to get his memories back. I know a lot of fantasy has a pretty strong connection between a wizard and his staff/wand, so it make sense he'd need it. It'll be interesting to see if we get any answers about his identity once he gets a hold of it.
 
I know a lot of fantasy has a pretty strong connection between a wizard and his staff/wand, so it make sense he'd need it. It'll be interesting to see if we get any answers about his identity once he gets a hold of it.
This article has something interesting to say about that...


One quick note from this part of the episode: The Stranger has a vision where a "branch" floats before him and grants him visions of power when he touches it. Nori refers to the branch as a "gand" which is significant, as the name Gandalf comes from the Norse word Galdalfr, or "wand elf".
 
I just finished the first episode, and it was a good start to the season.
The flashack covered a lot more time than I expected.
The drama with the Elves and the rings was pretty good, I can see why both sides felt the way they did. Although since we know Elves continue to wear them all the way up the end of The Third Age, that they must no be too bad in the long term.
Definitely curious if Gil-Galad's messenger beat Sauron to Celebrimbor. Either way, it must not take long for him to figure out what's going all, since we already know Sauron's future dealings with him are as Annatar and not Halbrand.
I'm thinking Adar is probably not going to be happy when he finds out that he had Sauron and let him go.
Hmm, so it looks like The Stranger is going to need his staff to get control of his magic, and possibly to get his memories back. I know a lot of fantasy has a pretty strong connection between a wizard and his staff/wand, so it make sense he'd need it. It'll be interesting to see if we get any answers about his identity once he gets a hold of it.
If you think about the scene in The Two Towers (and it also follows what was in the books) when Gandalf and the others arrive at Rohan and come before Theoden he unveils his staff and Grima who is in league with Saruman and has been counseled/warned about Gandalf by Saruman remarks that he had warned the guards to make sure that Gandalf was separated from his staff.

So it may be building on that and using that exchange to say its integral to the wizard's powers and controlling them.
 
If you think about the scene in The Two Towers (and it also follows what was in the books) when Gandalf and the others arrive at Rohan and come before Theoden he unveils his staff and Grima who is in league with Saruman and has been counseled/warned about Gandalf by Saruman remarks that he had warned the guards to make sure that Gandalf was separated from his staff.

So it may be building on that and using that exchange to say its integral to the wizard's powers and controlling them.
There's a similar exchange with Saruman and talking about the staves of the 5 Wizards, in reference to other objects of authority. Tolkien refers to it as an iconography of a wand with Gandalf being similar to an Odinic wanderer in Norse mythology when first coming up of his idea.
 
Although since we know Elves continue to wear them all the way up the end of The Third Age, that they must no be too bad in the long term.

That's because the elven rings were never touched by Sauron and so his One Ring can't control/influence them.

It leads to a nice scene in the third episode that i really like.
 
That's because the elven rings were never touched by Sauron and so his One Ring can't control/influence them.

It leads to a nice scene in the third episode that i really like.
I don't think thats correct.

The Rings for the Dwarves and for men had a corrupting influence from the get go. In the books when Sauron learns of the Elven rings he wants them, but Celebrimbor never betrays their location. The Elven rings are also the most powerful of the rings of the races.

Sauron then proceeds some time later to craft the one ring. This ring he puts his power and malice into. This allows the one ring to influence even the Elven rings. But the Elves aren't idiots, when they perceive Sauron creating the one ring, they take off the Elven rings and don't wear them until after the Battle of the last alliance when Sauron is "destroyed".

Now the corruption of the rings of the Dwarves and the rings of the men. Impacted the two different species in different ways. Based on characteristics of the two different races.
 
I don't think thats correct.

The Rings for the Dwarves and for men had a corrupting influence from the get go. In the books when Sauron learns of the Elven rings he wants them, but Celebrimbor never betrays their location. The Elven rings are also the most powerful of the rings of the races.

Sauron then proceeds some time later to craft the one ring. This ring he puts his power and malice into. This allows the one ring to influence even the Elven rings. But the Elves aren't idiots, when they perceive Sauron creating the one ring, they take off the Elven rings and don't wear them until after the Battle of the last alliance when Sauron is "destroyed".

Now the corruption of the rings of the Dwarves and the rings of the men. Impacted the two different species in different ways. Based on characteristics of the two different races.

Checked up on the details and you are right. I knew the elven rings were a bit more special since Sauron never touched them or had a hand in creating them yet his ring still could influence them, fascinating.

Never mind all the additional material that was invented for the show or are workarounds due to the very expansive nature of the entire story this core of the story, the rise of Sauron and the forging of the Rings of Power, is so extremely well done it's gripping me from the start and it only gets better.
 
This article has something interesting to say about that...


One quick note from this part of the episode: The Stranger has a vision where a "branch" floats before him and grants him visions of power when he touches it. Nori refers to the branch as a "gand" which is significant, as the name Gandalf comes from the Norse word Galdalfr, or "wand elf".
Interesting.
If you think about the scene in The Two Towers (and it also follows what was in the books) when Gandalf and the others arrive at Rohan and come before Theoden he unveils his staff and Grima who is in league with Saruman and has been counseled/warned about Gandalf by Saruman remarks that he had warned the guards to make sure that Gandalf was separated from his staff.

So it may be building on that and using that exchange to say its integral to the wizard's powers and controlling them.
Oh yeah, that would make sense.
That's because the elven rings were never touched by Sauron and so his One Ring can't control/influence them.

It leads to a nice scene in the third episode that i really like.
I don't think thats correct.

The Rings for the Dwarves and for men had a corrupting influence from the get go. In the books when Sauron learns of the Elven rings he wants them, but Celebrimbor never betrays their location. The Elven rings are also the most powerful of the rings of the races.

Sauron then proceeds some time later to craft the one ring. This ring he puts his power and malice into. This allows the one ring to influence even the Elven rings. But the Elves aren't idiots, when they perceive Sauron creating the one ring, they take off the Elven rings and don't wear them until after the Battle of the last alliance when Sauron is "destroyed".

Now the corruption of the rings of the Dwarves and the rings of the men. Impacted the two different species in different ways. Based on characteristics of the two different races.

Checked up on the details and you are right. I knew the elven rings were a bit more special since Sauron never touched them or had a hand in creating them yet his ring still could influence them, fascinating.

Never mind all the additional material that was invented for the show or are workarounds due to the very expansive nature of the entire story this core of the story, the rise of Sauron and the forging of the Rings of Power, is so extremely well done it's gripping me from the start and it only gets better.
It seems like right now they're not influencing people, and wondering if that's what will convince Sauron to create The One Ring, so he can control them.

Watched episode 2, so here are my thoughts on it.
Didn't not expect the Annatar thing to work out that way, I had assumed it would be his back up plan after Celebrimbor found out Halbrand was Sauron. From the trailers it looks like they'll be working together for a while, so I'm assuming whatever happens with Celebrimbor, Galadriel, and Elrond, it won't be as simple as the two of them showing up, telling Celebrimbor he's Sauron, and him telling Sauron to get out.
Well, The Stranger's staff sure didn't last long.
I'm curious to find out more about the dark wizard in Rhun, I don't know of any characters like that in Tolkien's writing, so I'm assuming he must an original character.
Yikes, things are not going well for the dwarves.
 
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