Rey and the sad devolution of the female character
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She isn't any different from Luke and Anakin.
Rey could have been using the force unknowingly since she was a child, just like Anakin was.
Not even watching this video......
A while ago, this part of the forum was brought back to life because Star Wars was big again. And look what the effing internet did to it. There's hardly a topic of actual interest in it. Might as well just migrate this whole mothereffer right back the to generic SciFi part of the forum.
A while ago, this part of the forum was brought back to life because Star Wars was big again. And look what the effing internet did to it. There's hardly a topic of actual interest in it. Might as well just migrate this whole mothereffer right back the to generic SciFi part of the forum.
I thought I'd read somewhere that VII-IX would have no strong planning. Ha, like the 1977 original had any given it wasn't even given a unique chapter # until a year or two later for a re-release!! But other articles claim there was a proper outline, which Rian discarded. Considering how much a paint-by-numbers TFA was, who can blame Rian?!! (If nothing else, for example, it's easy in IX for Rey to find out Ren was lying just to win her over. That may be a bit trite, but it still works. That youtube channel "Gospel According to Mark with a Cee" had him laying out a compelling idea for IX on his own. Who needs to see what was written or being rewritten to know they should be hiring Marc there as he can put out a good plot that innovates rather than blandly copies a template.
I think it was this one:
Really because Luke was conversating with the dead like just after one hover blaster ball session.
Luke did it so its ok.
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Hell, by the second movie he was taking on the Dark Lord of the Sith one on one.
It’s fine when a man is suddenly and instantly talented at something, when it’s a woman it’s because of “forced diversity” or she’s a Mary Sue, which is just a talented female (ignore the actual meaning of the term). The penis has all the power.
It's also worth noting that Rey's lightsaber technique is hardly that of a trained Jedi. She's very aggressive and sloppy, but also cunning. Entirely appropriate for someone that's been surviving on her own for most of her life.
And while people are still complaining, remember that one of Kenobi's first lesson to Luke was that when a Jedi opens themselves to the force it (partially) controls their actions. The same thing happened in SWR with Kanan after Maul blinded him. At a time when by rights he should have been utterly debilitated, he opened himself up and got a sudden burst of preternatural skill and intuition, which vanished the second the fight was done.
And while people are still complaining, remember that one of Kenobi's first lesson to Luke was that when a Jedi opens themselves to the force it (partially) controls their actions. The same thing happened in SWR with Kanan after Maul blinded him. At a time when by rights he should have been utterly debilitated, he opened himself up and got a sudden burst of preternatural skill and intuition, which vanished the second the fight was done.
Most of the training we’ve been shown is really just learning to let go and allow the Force to just guide you. It’s like meditation, the hard part is not thinking about anything. Just focusing on your own breathing and nothing else.
But that dark lord never tried to kill him, Vader was testing Luke and trying to persuade him to the dark side.
And Luke was special because his father was the chosen one, and because of his bloodline.
But because Rey can do all of those things perfect without any training, apparently Anakin and Luke aren't so special anymore.
*whispers*
‘Power’ not being what makes Anakin and Luke the super-special chosen ones, was the entire point.
Luke fulfills his destiny by literally deciding to stop doing anything, and trusting that other non-powered people (or severely de-powered in Anakins case,) can be the heroes of the hour.
While Palpatine sits in the corner, cackles about how the ability to throw around brute-force magical powers is what makes one special, then promptly dies because it turned out he was completely wrong.
Besides. it’s pointed out in ESB that Luke is actually pretty lacking in the abilities apartment, even when factoring his inexperience. Yoda expected him to be better than what he was, and refused to teach him because he didn’t meet the average expectations for a beginner student. Because Luke had psychological hang-ups stunting him (“I can’t!”).
Considering Rey’s flaws are the complete inverse of OT Luke’s, it makes sense that her use of the Force is different.
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"The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again."
Technically weren't they conversing with him? Doesn't take much skill to listen. Wait this is the internet, scratch that last comment.
Having also not watch the video I assume it's emulation in Hollywood. This movie did well so do more of that. Rey is biggest female lead in sci-fi atm and Star Wars is only trailing behind the likes of Marvel due to having far less movies. Thus other studios and writers will try to emulate what they are doing and if you don't like what they are doing then you won't like what others are doing. I assume.
Then again it's also "Star Wars" and with "Force Awakens" being the first movie they could have cast Dustin Diamond as the main hero and it would have still made all the money from that year. Some movies are actor proof. Which to be honest I am not sure if "Star Wars" is going to be that but it was during these triology movies because lets face it everyone was mostly coming to see Han Solo and Leia and the Droids and the familiar ships and stuff in the first movies. I'm not fully convinced the new actors are not the "Star Wars" versions of Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley from the "Pirates" movies. People come to see "Star Wars" but not sure they are coming to see them.
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I see absolutely none of the above in the films.Rey went from scavenger to a better pilot than Han, a better fighter than Ren, and a better Jedi than Luke in one movie. It was a bit of a joke really
NopeRey went from scavenger to a better pilot than Han, a better fighter than Ren, and a better Jedi than Luke in one movie. It was a bit of a joke really
