Rewatching

[Kobayshi Maru]

I like the series now(,I didn't much at first), less than the others though, I skip the song each time now, it's a reflex.

Even a night in sickbay is actually inventive in places, so I don't mind re-watching it.

 

[JeffinOakland]

I'm a little over halfway through season 3. There are some very dry episodes around the beginning-middle of season 3 but it's starting to pick up as the throwdown w the Xindi gets closer and closer.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

I'm a little over halfway through season 3. There are some very dry episodes around the beginning-middle of season 3 but it's starting to pick up as the throwdown w the Xindi gets closer and closer.

Do you mean episodes like that bizarre one with cowboys in it?

 

[JeffinOakland]

Yes and the one where Archer and T'Pol go to Detroit.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Yes and the one where Archer and T'Pol go to Detroit.

Yes, I tend to think of them as two of a same set as well.

 

[eyeresist]

I like the series now(,I didn't much at first), less than the others though, I skip the song each time now, it's a reflex.

Even a night in sickbay is actually inventive in places, so I don't mind re-watching it.

The various shenanigans of Phlox and his menagerie are good fun.


I've started my rewatch of season 3:
Extinction is still unbearable. I couldn't watch the whole thing, just skipped to the end. Fortunately there are no continuity reasons to watch it.
Rajiin is still largely annoying due to the title character, but we get more Xindi Council intrigue, plus the beginning of Archer's journey "into darkness".
Impulse is better than I initially graded it. It is very much a zombie movie, but it's very well done, and no character has to carry the idiot ball for the plot to work.
Exile is a mixed bag - intrigue with giant mysterious spheres in space vs. Hoshi soap opera.
The Shipment - On first viewing I liked this a lot, due to suspense, and discovering new stuff about the Xindi. Now I know all that, the episode seems a plodding exposition vehicle. Highlight is experiments with Xindi weaponry back on the ship - this gun runs on maggots!
Twilight - Even better than I remembered. Great writing and acting, well structured, with a properly science-fiction idea at the core.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

I like the series now(,I didn't much at first), less than the others though, I skip the song each time now, it's a reflex.

Even a night in sickbay is actually inventive in places, so I don't mind re-watching it.

The various shenanigans of Phlox and his menagerie are good fun.


I've started my rewatch of season 3:
Extinction is still unbearable. I couldn't watch the whole thing, just skipped to the end. Fortunately there are no continuity reasons to watch it.
Rajiin is still largely annoying due to the title character, but we get more Xindi Council intrigue, plus the beginning of Archer's journey "into darkness".
Impulse is better than I initially graded it. It is very much a zombie movie, but it's very well done, and no character has to carry the idiot ball for the plot to work.
Exile is a mixed bag - intrigue with giant mysterious spheres in space vs. Hoshi soap opera.
The Shipment - On first viewing I liked this a lot, due to suspense, and discovering new stuff about the Xindi. Now I know all that, the episode seems a plodding exposition vehicle. Highlight is experiments with Xindi weaponry back on the ship - this gun runs on maggots!
Twilight - Even better than I remembered. Great writing and acting, well structured, with a properly science-fiction idea at the core.

I agree that the idea behind Extinction is stupid (we can debate that if anyone is willing) plus it's an obvious cribbing of Voyager's Favorite Son (all the ingredients are there). (Why they chose to copy one of the lowest points of Voyager is beyond me), just as Exile is also a ripping off of alter ego, but somehow Extinction still manages to be fun to watch. Why? I don't know. I guess you'll have to see for yourself.

Doctor's Orders is also stolen from Voyager btw. I'll let you people guess from which episode.

 

[eyeresist]

I HAVE seen it! The real problem with the episode is that when the crew turn into these throwbacks to an alien race sophisticated enough to produce such an extraordinary virus, they are gurning morons.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

I HAVE seen it! The real problem with the episode is that when the crew turn into these throwbacks to an alien race sophisticated enough to produce such an extraordinary virus, they are gurning morons.

Yes, that's part of the stupid idea, I was talking about. Of course we can argue that the virus mutated and was no longer able to create accurately the people that designed it. Instead it made these... jokes.


Archer's decision to keep the vial (of viruses) instead of vaporizing it, is idiotic beyond belief. But then again it's far from being the only very stupid idea he's had on the show.

 

[JeffinOakland]

Every ST series does a lot cribbing from previous ST series. I'm on the homestretch about 1/3 the way through Season 4. I like the short story arcs and the Andorian arc w Shran is my favorite group of episodes from the entire series.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Every ST series does a lot cribbing from previous ST series. I'm on the homestretch about 1/3 the way through Season 4. I like the short story arcs and the Andorian arc w Shran is my favorite group of episodes from the entire series.

Yes Shran is one of their (the writers) better ideas.

 

[JeffinOakland]

and Jeffrey Coombs is EXCELLENT

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

It's too bad they cancelled the series when they were finally getting it right. I was curious to see what they would have come up with. Maybe find an explanation for the war with the Romulans that wasn't that far off.

 

[plynch]

My daughter and I are watching now. She waited til we got a roku so we could watch it together instead of just on her tablet, so that was polite.

I saw it first run and gave up in S1. Not consciously, just as in, meh. I'll not go into why. People more eloquent than I (I just read agonybooth's review of "Sickbay") have done that thoroughly.

It's ok.

2. I like the opening though I admit it is a generic hook. But we always make fun of the electric guitar over the orchestra in the closing credits. She won't let us advance to the next ep until that part!

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Call me crazy but I really like the 1st season finale and it's conclusion in the next ep. I think the genetically enhanced Suliban were very good villains, they should have used them more.

 

[JeffinOakland]

By the time the obligatory "parallel universe/alternate reality" episodes came along, they were beside the point. This is one series that ended w a whimper.

 

[eyeresist]

Archer's decision to keep the vial (of viruses) instead of vaporizing it, is idiotic beyond belief.

I think in this case it was the behind-the-scenes "use and reuse" attitude coming through

My rewatch of s3 has stalled, but I did watch North Star today. Each time I watch this one I'm surprised how good it is, because the phrase "Star Trek wild west episode" automatically lowers my expectations. But they avoid the obvious goofiness by starting in the middle of the story and taking it seriously (the great production values help). The complete opposite of Supernatural's Frontierland episode, which I also love. (see below)

 

[SPCTRE]

ENT has probably the best S1 of all of Trek, except TOS.

I did have a similar reaction to yours when I did a rewatch a couple of years ago, although I did enjoy it more than you the first time round.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Archer's decision to keep the vial (of viruses) instead of vaporizing it, is idiotic beyond belief.

I think in this case it was the behind-the-scenes "use and reuse" attitude coming through

My rewatch of s3 has stalled, but I did watch North Star today. Each time I watch this one I'm surprised how good it is, because the phrase "Star Trek wild west episode" automatically lowers my expectations. But they avoid the obvious goofiness by starting in the middle of the story and taking it seriously (the great production values help). The complete opposite of Supernatural's Frontierland episode, which I also love. (see below)

Personally, I think the western episode IS goofy. It's as if they had to reuse old sets or something.

 

[SPCTRE]

^ I would agree that it has goofy moments, for the most part intentionally and played for laughs, but it's mostly really well done - which is more that can be said for earlier western-style Trek episodes, as eyeresist pointed out.