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Revisiting ST-TNG...

Unnatural Selection was kind of a Turning Point for Pulaski for me. One of the common complaints I see from various folks is that Pulaski was trying to be a McCoy clone for TNG to have conflict with Data. While it didn't work, I found this episode kind of breaking her away from that premise and most of that has to do with her attitude towards Picard. Also, if I remember correctly, her attitude towards Data also improves too.

I feel like I'm one of the few who like Pulaski, but I really did feel like with a bit more time, she could have been an outstanding character. I really wish she had returned and actually interacted with Crusher at points through the series, but it never meant to be. I also know there's this whole thing with Crusher and Picard, but I actually wouldn't have missed Crusher if Pulaski had stayed.
 
^^ I agree that they wisely steered away from the Pulaski/Data dynamic and instead made her butt heads (so to speak) with Picard. It was more interesting because Picard could dish it out just as well.

I didn't really have anything against Beverly Crusher, but I didn't miss her either when she left.

In Season One I was critical of Jonathan Frakes and questioned if he was really right for the role. Now I have to say I'm becoming less critical of his performance...although I think he still tends to like striking a pose. :lol:
 
I am about to speak blasphemy... I'm enjoying this revisit...to the point that I might, just might, have to rewrite my signature. :lol:

Oh... dear... GOD!

What's next? Locusts?!

;)

This is somewhat better than I remembered it. It's actually decently executed and I can't really find fault with it other than I wasn't all that interested. Maybe it's simply that anything that brings Deanna Troi to the fore usually makes my eyes roll into the back of my head.

I think this episode is one of the better uses of Troi the "help" she gave Reva was nice the only quibble I have is that it seems that whenever a female character is paired with a male guest-of-the-week a forced romance ensues. But this episode has a certain "spark" to it that's nice with an interesting message, I liked the idea of the "Chorus" but also would think that his society/planet would have other means to communicate as it seems that the life-time bond with speaking people strikes me as dangerous given the likelihood that someone will die and disrupt the "chorus."

The interaction betwen Geordi and Reva is something I really liked.
 
Another Pulaski fan here - I enjoyed the Season 2 episodes where she had a prominent role. Though this season feels pretty unpolished compared to what came later, I still feel that Pulaski made more impact than Crusher.

This season's such a mixed bag - it can be great, but when it's bad it's frequently dreadful.

Elementary, Dear Data is definitely my favourite so far.
 
"A Matter Of Honor" ****

Riker volunteers for a temporary assignment aboard a Klingon vessel.

This was quite fun for the most part and Frakes pulled it off. We get to see some interesting stuff about the Klingons and Riker sampling their food and interacting with them was interesting and fun. That said I found myself wanting to push the Benzite Ensign out an airlock. :lol: And I thought the Klingon Captain was a putz without much imagination and awfully quick to jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

Except for one episode I'd say this season is doing fairly well so far.
 
You're almost at where I stopped in my TNG Rewatch (The Dauphin). I might get back on board and kind of watch the episodes with out, even though it seems like you're going at a blistering pace.
 
I found Pulaski having some "Dr. McCoy vs. Spock" moments with Data, which I thought was an intentional hearkening back to TOS. Wasn't she also paranoid of the transporter? I thought Diana Muldaur was pretty good in TOS with both of her roles. It felt kind of nostalgic to have her appear on TNG, but her personification of Pulaski was not endearing. Beverly was much more appealing. Yes, she was weak in other respects, but overall I thought McFadden improved across the seasons.

It's good to see you delving back into TNG, Warped9. I appreciate your reviews and relate well to them. Although, I still feel like the first two seasons were humdrum. The 2nd was better than the 1st, as the actors were becoming familiar with the routine and their roles. But there was a marked turn for season 3. Unfortunately things began to weaken later on. For me it was season 6. That's where I saw the down slide. And then season 7 had some real losers. I'm glad it redeemed itself with "All Good Things."

There were some great story ideas on the first two seasons. Some of them felt more TOS like than in any other season of TNG. But it was the directing and acting that lacked... and quite a bit of the scripted dialog. It was really refreshing to see Geordi become the chief engineer. And Worf assuming his station as chief of security felt right. He really got the hang of it into season 3.
 
“The Child” ***

It's an interesting episode. A little light in tone for a season opener, but I rather liked that.

"Where Silence Has Lease" ****

One of my favourite episodes. Moody, disturbing, intriguing.

"Elementary, Dear Data" *****

I do have one question: why is Laforge apparently building his H.M.S. Victory model in Main Engineering? :wtf:

Even first-run, I had the same reaction. :D

...I'm enjoying this revisit...even when I'm enduring episodes that aren't quite so enjoyable. :lol:

It's nice to read your reviews. I don't always agree with them, but it's as nice (if not nicer!) to read a thoughtful critique as it is to read praise.

"The Outrageous Okana" **

Man, I detest this episode. Alongside Justice (and the Irish segments of Up The Long Ladder), probably one of my least favourite TNG eps. Unlike Justice, at least I can watch this one all the way through though!

"The Schizoid Man" ***

I enjoyed this a lot more than you did. Graves was a hoot, and his possession of Data very funny, including the priceless eulogy. "To know him, was to love him, was to know him..."

"Loud As A Whisper" ***

This is a sentimental favourite of mine; I thought the chorus was clever, and it was nice to see Troi really using her counselling skills for a change. And as schmaltzy as it is, I like the scene between Riva and LaForge on the bridge. It may have been sentimental, but it also felt honest.

"Unnatural Selection" ****

Yup, good ep with some nice concepts.
 
...it seems like you're going at a blistering pace.
Well, consider that if you don't bother with the opening and closing credits and that you don't have to endure the numerous commercial breaks then you get through an episode in about forty-two or so minutes. So you can watch two episodes in about an hour and a half.

Enduring some episode you have conflicted feelings about sometimes leads to surprises if you haven't seen them for awhile. "Arsenal Of Freedom" is one I remember liking the idea but not the execution, but just recently rewatching it I revised my opinion.

One of the things that I quite like about the early seasons (when the episodes were good) was that it evoked TOS in some measure and in that things still felt wide open. Later as the series progressed and into the other series that feeling was lost as the Trek universe became ever more familiar and populated. Indeed that's one of the reasons ENT disappointed me. It was supposed to be pre TOS and yet it felt little to no different than the Trek in later TNG and on through DS9 and VOY.

I like Star Trek that explores ideas and gives us interesting stories. Of course I want to like the characters, but I don't want it to be just about them. I want good characters to take us to interesting places whether without or within. After Season Four I remember TNG feeling more about the characters and less about story and ideas.
 
Picard - "IT" Is Data, my second officer, a sentient being and your superior officer so stop being such a bitch to him."
Err, Pulaski held the rank of commander, didn't she? So she is actually outranking Data, not vice versa.
 
Enduring some episode you have conflicted feelings about sometimes leads to surprises if you haven't seen them for awhile.

I've been noticing that as well. episodes I never really enjoyed before are now okay. I just realized how not owning season 2 for the last few years was a mistake.
 
"The Measure Of A Man" *****

Picard fights to establish Data as a sentient being and protect him from an overzealous Starfleet scientist.

Excellent! Since the very first time I saw this so many years ago it has been and remains my all time favourite TNG episode. Yes, it evokes TOS and most particularly TOS' "Courtmartial" all the while dealing with a cool subject, one that could very well be upon us in the coming decades.

The performances in this are first-rate. Sometimes you can measure the quality of a work by if and what they make you feel. Almost right off I found myself intensely disliking Commander Maddox. I enjoyed the banter between Picard and JAG Captain Lavois. Her calling Picard a pompous ass was priceless. :lol: And I loved Picard's defense of Data.

Picard: "Starfleet was founded to seek out new life. Well there it sits, waiting..."

Awesome! :techman:
 
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The problem with Pulaski-Data was that Pulaski truly seemed to hate Data and think of him not even as a legitimate lifeform. McCoy was borderline racist in his attitude, but he never went THAT far. And Spock COULD respond in kind, in his hypocritical-racist way (I considered both to be racist, with an extra bit of hypocrisy on Spock's behalf). Data on the other hand, never responded and was pretty much just a victim who didn't realize he was the target of a racist.
 
Measure of a Man might be the best TNG episode of the first two seasons. Well deserved to be called "Classic". It is interesting last week I was watching Jeopardy and the whole Watson Challenge and I was thinking about this episode and whether or not Measure of a Man will actually be a reality in some limited form in the next hundred years. Might even call the episode way ahead of it's time.
 
Picard - "IT" Is Data, my second officer, a sentient being and your superior officer so stop being such a bitch to him."
Err, Pulaski held the rank of commander, didn't she? So she is actually outranking Data, not vice versa.

She may of had a higher rank but Data held a higher position on the ship.

Well, their is no higher ranking officer than Chief Medical Officer when it comes to medical matters.
 
I'll go on record that the episodes I really like from TNG can stand with the ones I like best from TOS, and everyone knows I think TOS rules when it comes to Star Trek. :)


"The Dauphin" **

Wesley is smitten with an important passenger aboard the Enterprise.

Not nearly so awesome. It isn't that this is truly poor but more that it's boring. This doesn't seem to be about anything of interest and it comes across as just filler. I never was much interested in teen angst. And this is quite a letdown after the string of good episodes that precede it.
 
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^^ Thanks. And I'm enjoying this revisit...even when I'm enduring episodes that aren't quite so enjoyable. :lol:


"The Outrageous Okana" **

A roguish freighter Captain inadvertently inveigles the Enterprise between two argumentative worlds.

Bummer. After a good start Season Two trips and falls on its face with this outing that tries too hard to be charming and funny. It's as painful as Data trying to tell lame jokes. The main cast is competent, but it's as if they're caught in a crossover with a really cheesy sci-fi show. The humour in "Elementary, Dear Data" was deftly executed and distinctly charming while here it's as obvious as a sledge hammer. "Elementary, Dear Data" also had some drama to balance against the humour which this episode most certainly doesn't.

Despite William O. Campbell's charm, and a decent set-up almost everything else falls flat in this episode. It seemed like one of the last vestiges of copying the TOS format from season 1.

Conspiracy: Picard did mention in his log it was unusual for a starship on the outer rim to come back to Earth...and actually if you follow the series, in 178 episodes it only happened four times, not counting flashbacks or the finale, which starts off on Earth.

RAMA
 
Which is still a lot for a ship that, according to behind the scenes info, was supposed to go on a twenty-year mission.

I suppose what we saw in TNG could have just been a "test run" period, during which, the crew and the ship's systems are coordinated into one responsive, natural, comfortable whole. *TOS-style simple metaphor* Like breaking in a pair of tennis shoes!
 
"The Dauphin" **

More generous than me. Okay, that's probably bit harsh but this episode is just lame. The teen angst in it is too much, the "creature effects" just terrible and the story just uninteresting.

Just. Ugh.

Measure of a Man is, however, a fantastic episode and deserves the highest rating on whatever scale you're on. It's the epitome of the best of Trek period.

I have always had the quibble on one thing though:

So Data was discovered by Starfleet explorers and, presumably, made the personal choice to go into Starfleet. We know that he had to go through the academy and "learn" rather than just being thrown on a ship to do his job so that right there should show that Starfleet saw Data as a sentient being that could make choices for himself and didn't see him as "property." So if Data could elect to enter Starfleet it seems reasonable he could elect to leave it.

Maddox wonders where Data's rights "end" and his own rights begin, saying that he has the "right" to do his cybernetics work and that trumps Data's own rights to exist/choose his own career path.

Maddox must have had some incredible credentials that matched or rivaled Dr. Soong's. We saw humanoid androids a lot in TOS but they were little more than considered mechanical machines with no sense of self or sentience. Data was special in that he was an "artificial life form" who, even before the official ruling, displayed signs of sentience. Data is very, very unique and that it was the culmination of one man's life's work to achieve Data and that he's the only known sentient android (other than Lore, of course) this suggests what Soong did was very, very, very hard. So it's sort of incredible that this young guy in Starfleet thinks that not only he can achieve what took Soong a lifetime to do (and his family generations to do when you add ENT into the mix) but easily duplicate it without "harming" the original and Starfleet agrees! That's sort-of incredible to me.

Also I'm not sure I fully understand what sort of arguments Riker was going for in the arbitration. The argument seems to be one of asking if Data is "alive" or the "property of Starfleet" (although what we know about Data at this point suggests there's no reason for them to assume ownership over him). Riker's argument amounts to "Look at him! He's a machine and... different!" But doesn't seem to really offer an argument on why Starfleet would assume ownership or control over Data given what is known about him. He shows that Data is strong, his arm can be removed and can be turned off?

Certainly somewhere in space there's a species that is strong, has easily removed limbs that can be reattached/regenerated and enters a hibernation stage that can easily be induced. Hell any species in the galaxy can be "turned off" with a stun-gun, drugs, or other means.

So what, exactly, was Riker's argument in the context of the trial? Yeah, Data's a machine that fact was known and not in dispute! The question is whether or not Data was property and had the ability to choose for himself. Picard delivers a great speech for sure that strikes at the very heart of everything Trek stands for but he also could have done this:

"Data, how did you come to be in Starfleet?"
"I was found, turned on, went through the academy and then worked my way through the ranks over the course of the last 20 years."
"Were you forced to do this?"
"No."
"Were you taken apart, studied, scrutinized, or simply placed on a ship to do a specific task immediately after being discovered?"
"No."
"Have you ever seen a piece of machinery, a computer or other hardware in Starfleet awarded medals, made to go through training programs, promoted, transfered or spoken to in the familiar?"
"No."
"Your honor, I rest my case. Data has never been treated as property, thus he isn't property."
 
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