Republican/Liberal

[sidious618]

That being said, I'm a Liberal Democrat who flirts with Socialist.

I'm also flirting with Socialist. Things have been going well. I plan on introducing her to my Vanguard Party tonight.

Do y'all even realize what Socialist means? The Nazi's were Socialists(National Socialist Party of German Workers=Nazi)
I just wouldn't throw that term around so freely. To be a Democrat is one thing, but a Socialist?

Oh, and I'm not comparing Socialists to Hitler, before y'all jump all over me. But Nazi Germany was a very Socialist country and the thought of that should be scary to any sane person.

This is completely incorrect. There is not a bit of truth to what you just said other than, yes the Nazi name stood for National Socialist. They were, however, not at all a socialist country, not in the least bit. They were a fascist country. As a matter of fact, economically they were remarkably capitalist with Hitler embracing many of the same economic strategies that the US, UK and more did. Socialism is designed to help the lower classes. Hitler executed the lower classes. He is not even close to a socialist and to claim he is shows either ignorance about what happened in Germany in the 1930s or a cheap shot at socialists.

 

[Itisnotlogical]

I try not to associate with parties. It just colors people's first reaction to me. I'd like to people to think "This is a cool d00d" instead of saying "This is a liberal/conservative/democrat/republican/libertarian/etc.". That said, I generally stand by Obama on his decisions. After my nephew got a hernia and I realized how pants-on-head retardedly expensive health care is, I'm especially in favor of health care reform.

And a fascist is hardly a socialist, GemHaters. Think, then post.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm a libertarian. Which means exactly nothing in my country but whatever.

 

[comsol]

I'm a liberal who votes Democratic. While I could have seen myself voting for moderate or liberal Republicans in past decades, there really aren't any around any more, and that party has moved so far to the right that I can't see doing so in the future.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Do y'all even realize what Socialist means? The Nazi's were Socialists(National Socialist Party of German Workers=Nazi)

Nazism is a Right-Wing ideology.

 

[captcalhoun]

congrats, Gemhaters, you godwin'd the thread. well done.

 

[GemHaters]

congrats, Gemhaters, you godwin'd the thread. well done.

I'm not the one that called myself a Socialist...

 

[Lindley]

congrats, Gemhaters, you godwin'd the thread. well done.

I'm not the one that called myself a Socialist...

The National Socialist party was far right-wing, while socialism is traditionally considered far left-wing. They're about as far apart as possible, despite the name.

One theory I've heard is that the National Socialist party name was chosen to lure young people away from Communism. Of course, neither extreme worked out very well.

 

[Pingfah]

Of course, there are many different types of socialism anyway, simply because two things share a name does not necessarily mean they are the same.

This Nazism boogeyman is nothing but an example of sloppy, lazy thinking.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Nazism and Socialism are two very different things. Nazis are the lunatic fringe of socialism. Just like the KKK is the lunatic fringe of Christianity.

Not even that's correct. At most you could say that Nazis and KKK "adopted" some symbolic aspects of socialism and christianity respectively to lure people into making their hideous ideology look slightly less repulsive; but the actual intellectual connection is extremely flimsy. The members of the KKK may have been Christians, but there's nothing Christian about lynching somebody and there's nothing socialist about starting offensive wars, forcing people into slave labor and murdering millions.

 

[iguana_tonante]

Do y'all even realize what Socialist means? The Nazi's were Socialists(National Socialist Party of German Workers=Nazi)
I just wouldn't throw that term around so freely. To be a Democrat is one thing, but a Socialist?

Oh, and I'm not comparing Socialists to Hitler, before y'all jump all over me. But Nazi Germany was a very Socialist country and the thought of that should be scary to any sane person.

I see you fail both history and political science in a single post. Good job.

I'm not the one that called myself a Socialist...

No, but you are the one who invoked either a shocking ignorance or a deliberate falsehood. I hope it's just ignorance, for ignorance can be corrected.

 

[Pingfah]

Do y'all even know what Republican means? The IRA were republicans (Irish Republican Army = IRA) and they were all about murdering innocent civilians, shooting cops and blowing up the troops.

I wouldn't throw the term around so freely, to be Conservative is one thing, but a Republican?

Oh, and I'm not comparing Republicans to Terrorists (I am really...), before y'all jump all over me. But Ireland was a very Republican country and the thought of that should be scary to any sane person.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Yeah, I was going to say something similar. Some people sure put a lot of faith into labels, don't they?

 

[iguana_tonante]

The Nazi puppet government in Northern Italy during the last days of WWII was called the Italian Social Republic, so I suppose they were both Socialists and Republicans! OMG! WFT! BBQ!

 

[Squiggy]

Going by that astounding logic...all Republicans are actually Romans longing for the days of yore.

 

[TheBrew]

And Democrats like to show works in progress.

 

[Gov Kodos]

The Nazi puppet government in Northern Italy during the last days of WWII was called the Italian Social Republic, so I suppose they were both Socialists and Republicans! OMG! WFT! BBQ!

And the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea will show the way!

 

[Satyrquaze]

Yeah, I was going to say something similar. Some people sure put a lot of faith into labels, don't they?

That reminds me, I took a political test on facebook, and the result was something like "Very Liberal bordering on Socialist". A coworker of mine (who I often get into political debates with) posted on the link saying that I was almost as socialist as Stalin(!).

My response was basically: Say what you will about socialism or Stalin. Just don't put them anywhere near the same catagory. Stalin was many things, a socialist in practice was not one of them.

 

[captcalhoun]

And the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea will show the way!

Democratic People's Republic of North Korea, actually.

they're not nicknamed Dee-Perk for nothing.

it's also 3 lies for the price of one: they aint democratic, the people ain't got a say and it's not a real republic.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

congrats, Gemhaters, you godwin'd the thread. well done.

I'm not the one that called myself a Socialist...

The National Socialist party was far right-wing, while socialism is traditionally considered far left-wing. They're about as far apart as possible, despite the name.

If you're only measuring them on a "left/right" scale, then they might seem separate, but if you also add a "libertarian/authoritarian" axis like the Political Compass uses, then the similarities become far more apparent, given how high both score on the authoritarian scale.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/