Report: Ex-Smallville Star Leader of Sex Cult

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by gblews, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. bigdaddy

    bigdaddy Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Location:
    Space Massachusetts
    Supergirl won't be on Supergirl pretty soon. (aka it will be canceled.)
     
  2. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Hmmmm... Is Hoechelin going to be Superman in the later episodes of Krypton?
     
  3. The Laughing Vulcan

    The Laughing Vulcan Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2004
    Location:
    At The Laughing Vulcan's party...
    This'll be a movie of the week in a couple of years... "The Secret World of Ally Mack"
     
  4. The Realist

    The Realist Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2001
    Well, that's certainly apropos of nothing, including reality.

    As for the Allison Mack stuff, I have to admit I'm following it raptly, though not happily. Loved Smallville, loved Mack/Chloe, and this incredibly lurid and grotesque slow-motion train wreck is impossible to tear my eyes away from.
     
    Turtletrekker likes this.
  5. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Location:
    Lancaster, PA
    It was just renewed for Season 4.

    Meanwhile, Kristin Kreuk has issued a statement pointing out that she left the group five years ago, before it got all weird and abusive.
     
  6. Jayson1

    Jayson1 Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    Anybody just as distrubed that Kruek was also involved in this cult. Add that to Sam Jones(Pete) going to prison a few years ago and does cast a almost dark "Different Strokes" style shadow over the entire show. If any good can come from this story is the one should never judge a book by it's cover. These two ladies were really hot and i'm guessing somewhat wealthy but they still end up have enough human insecurity we all have that in this case lead them down this dark path.

    Jason
     
  7. Mr. Adventure

    Mr. Adventure Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
    Location:
    Mr. Adventure
    Yeah, loved her on Smallville so I find this one really bothers me, way more than most of these things do. It's not as widely reported but apparently Nikki Clyne of nuBSG is involved as well.
     
  8. lawman

    lawman Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2007
    Actual journalism:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.html

    The source for the Sun piece is a former publicist for the group who was fired and is embroiled in major lawsuits with it, so it's no surprise he was spinning things as negatively as possible. On the other hand, there do seem to be some real issues here, most notably the voluntary "blackmail" aspect and thus (implicitly) the questionable degree of consent to the group's activities. Beyond that (and the highi-roller financial stakes), it doesn't sound all that different from a lot of fraternities and sororities (for better or worse). The word "cult" is a tricky thing to throw around, as it has no clear legal definition.
     
  9. The Realist

    The Realist Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2001
    ^ While you're certainly right that not all sources of information are created equal, the Feds didn't indict Raniere and haul him back from Mexico for running the equivalent of a sorority. And if "cult" has no clear definition, this group seems like a pretty good place to start establishing one.
     
  10. Jayson1

    Jayson1 Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    My impression was to think of sciencetology when I read this or David Koresh. Now I don't know what to believe especially since my impression of the "Sun" is that it's basically the British version of 'The National Enquirer" but i'm not sure about that. Seems like a legit story because it's being reported in other places as well but it's really hard to know who to trust in the media anymore. Doesn't help that just recetntly watched a YOung Turks vidoeo about SInclair broadcasting and it's propoganda efforts.

    Jason
     
  11. tharpdevenport

    tharpdevenport Admiral Admiral

    It'll have a cult following.
     
  12. Gaith

    Gaith Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 11, 2008
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    "Somebody saaaaaaaaaaave"... anyone who's being taken advantage of, especially sexually. :(
     
    Chaos Descending likes this.
  13. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2001
    Location:
    On the run.
    Would Allison end up on Chloe's Wall of Weird?
     
  14. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2003
    ^ If Nxivm was secretly funded by LexCorp and Allison was a meteor freak and using laser eyes to do the branding, sure. Or red Kryptonite was part of their diet plan, or.....

    Okay, jokes aside....what the hell, Allison? Sheesh. I'm still unclear on who got who in the cult first with the Smallville girls. Allison or Kristin? In any case, it appears that Allison stayed after things got weird and sadistic.

    I remember Smallville started when I was a junior in high school...I stopped watching (or watched only sporadically) by the time I was done with college. But I remember being 17 and thinking that Kristin Kreuk was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Sometimes she took my breath away. And years later, I read stories like this and I think "What the hell are celebrities thinking to get involved in stuff like this? Idiots."
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2018
    UncleRogi likes this.
  15. danellis

    danellis Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2010
    Location:
    UK
    I suspect they're generally thinking exactly the same things as the other 16,000-plus members thought.

    dJE
     
  16. Gaith

    Gaith Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 11, 2008
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    It seems that there was an outer organization and an inner cult simultaneously, at least for a while. Not everyone who ever attended a People's Temple service was part of Jim Jones' cult, and there's a world of difference between cafeteria Catholics and monks with vows of silence. According to Kreuk's statement, which isn't for me to fact-check, she was never part of the cult side.
     
  17. trekfan39

    trekfan39 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2016
    Lets remember that Clinton lied to the hole Country when he said he didn't have sexual relations with that women! We should all just accept that a lot of the people in Washington are rich liars and sometimes you have to pick who you feel is the lesser of two evils. Point being that just like Trump when it comes to money and Women the Clintons are scumbags too.
     
  18. The Realist

    The Realist Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2001
    There's evil personally, and there's evil politically. Since we're voting for these folks first and foremost to enact policy, the Clintons are still infinitely preferable to the likes of Trump. You can't excuse irresponsible voting choices by handwaving that "they're all the same." Folks who choose to cast their vote for the ignorance, fear, and hatred platform have to own it.
     
  19. trekfan39

    trekfan39 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2016
    That's definitely a matter of personal opinion one that I can't say I share in fact I'd say they are all equally as dirty as the other.
     
  20. J.T.B.

    J.T.B. Rear Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2005
    Well, if Trump would release his tax returns like Clinton did, we could find out if you are right.
     
    Turtletrekker likes this.