Report: Discovery moving to Netflix
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I am currently binge watching X-Files for the first time. I am in season 5. It is most certainly episodic. Yes, it has overlying story arcs. Most episodes do not push the story forward. Not a single episode of season 5 has done that yet. Here is my very first post in this thread...
So not sure why you are making false claims about me.
The Mandalorian is episodic with overlying story arcs. So was Star Trek, so was Firefly, so was Buffy, so was Farscape etc.
Discovery does very well on Netflix internationally, it's usually in the top 10 of the most watched programs every week so there's definitely an audience for new Star Trek on Netflix, not just the old shows.
It obviously does well on CBS All Access too or there wouldn't be six shows either in production or development but that doesn't mean it couldn't do better so I'm not sure CBS wouldn't at least consider putting older CBSAA seasons on Netflix in the US especially after seeing how Cobra Kai took off after it was on Netflix.
It obviously does well on CBS All Access too or there wouldn't be six shows either in production or development but that doesn't mean it couldn't do better so I'm not sure CBS wouldn't at least consider putting older CBSAA seasons on Netflix in the US especially after seeing how Cobra Kai took off after it was on Netflix.
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Are it?
Yeah, it has. I personally have really struggled with this season. The problem is, they've got one foot in each camp at the moment. They have this overarching 'The Burn' plot and they've really been weak on threading that through the entire season. I've definitely enjoyed parts of it, but it has been very disjointed. I thought the two parter was good, and I hope the last three episodes are all about 'The Burn'.
It took 10 episodes, but they filed all the rough edges off the series in this season. To satisfy people who don't deserve to be satisfied. As much as I like the third season, this is what's happened.
What I'm hoping is this is just Michelle Paradise transitioning DSC into being her series instead of the one she inherited from someone else; and that now she's put all of her things in place to shake those up.
What I'm hoping is this is just Michelle Paradise transitioning DSC into being her series instead of the one she inherited from someone else; and that now she's put all of her things in place to shake those up.
Thou art correct.
I can definitely get behind that line of thinking. The PG issue is now dealt with (and actually quite well), so now it needs to be onwards to greatness.
To be fair TV Star Trek never really had overarching story arcs until DS9.
TOS and TNG were completely episodic with no real character development. (And no finding out that Jean-Luc Picard had an interest in archeology; and William T. Riker like jazz and played the trombone is what I would call character development - just in case someone thinks finding out minor facts about a character's interest is considered character development; It really isn't.)
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Troi likes chocolate, now that's character development!!!!
Well, we had Spock with a running character arc for thirty five years. Data and Worf both had running arcs.
So, while not front-burner, there were continuing plot points in both series. I think the difference now is that people need small universe stories where everyone and everything connect with everyone and everything else. I actually tend to find it less "creative" than what came before (unless you have a top notch writing staff). Though it is a mileage may vary type of situation.
Lower Decks is largely episodic, but I feel like we got more satisfying character arcs from it than either of the CBS live-action series to date.
Spock had an arc in the TOS feature films; and had an 'arc' of sorts in TNG's S5 "Unification I & II" -- due to a somewhat promotional tie in with the TOS feature film STVI:TUC which premiered in theatres the same week Unification II aired -- and hell, it ended in the PU with ST: D's "Unification III" if you want to really get technical
); but overall during the TOS TV series run, no Spock didn't -- and that's what we were discussing. 
Sure we did. Who he was and the differences between himself and the crew were running plot points throughout the entirety of TOS.
Thats a bit harsh on Saru who despite annoying me a little in S3 is a great character and Stamets has been great too
For me the standout CBS guy is Rios. Cant put my finger on why but he has just stuck with me
Picard ended up faring worse for me than Discovery did (I still haven't finished it). It really is a shame, because they both have phenomenal casts.
It is hard to realize something that you've cared about the entirety of your life has simply moved off in a direction that no longer speaks to you. But that's life.
What real character development did we see with Spock on the TOS run? He started out and Half Human/Half Vulcan with those two sides of him in constant struggle; and he was that way from the 2nd pilot to the last aired episode (I don't count the 1st pilot as the 'logical' aspect wasn't a part of the character then.
Nurse Chapel developed a romantic feeling for him, but his character didn't change as he politely rebuffed her on every occasion she made a point to let him know. Yes, the character went through things each episode but his personality was 'reset' back to status quo by the next episode.
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One of your subsequent posts mentions Creepshow and Outer Limits as “episodic” sci-fi or “weird” shows that are ”better served” by that format. Both of those shows are standalone shows. The X-Files is not standalone. It is serialized with the myth arc broken up by standalone episodes, same as Buffy.
TOS was standalone, the first two seasons of The Ent were standalone, Black Mirror is standalone, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, standalone. None of these shows have an overall story arc with standalone episodes surrounding arc episodes, which is what also makes DSC and other shows, serialized.
Your attempt to define shows with overall story arcs interspersed with standalone episodes (like X-Files and Buffy), as “episodic, I have to conclude, is an attempt to broaden the definition of what you call “episodic,” in order to include good shows (and shows you like) as “episodic” thereby “proving” your point.
Sounds like someone is getting a bit paranoid.
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