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Rene Auberjonois was terrible as Odo
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Tell that to the DNA. As for me, a few curls under the arms never hurt nobody (not that I don't prefer shaved but sexy is sexy...).
You too huh? LOL
Well, if you get one in your mouth, and you start gagging, and she thinks you're grunting with pleasure... but I digress.
Arguably, Odo probably shouldn't have been as expressive as Auberjonois acted the character, but it's something I'm willing to overlook, as it improved the character, and indeed the series.
Just imagine what Neelix could have been with a similarly gifted actor under the latex...
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No amount of writing could have made people respect the "hedgehog." Sorry, a hedgehog is a hedgehod is a hedgehog.
Not even Lawrence Olivier as a "hedgehog" could have saved Neelix or VOY.
A little off topic, but I think Neelix's best performance was when he was combined with Tuvok... of course I suppose it wasn't really the actor of Neelix playing it... but that episode was pretty good... it was also rather dark after all the times he had asked not to go back to being the two again...
Odo and Quark were the best things about DS9, and you can thank Rene and Armin for that. Without them, I'd have stopped watching. Then again they turned around and made Odo into a lovesick doofus like all the rest of them, and Quark into a transvestite. Guess it's a double-edged sword.
I thought he was great as Odo. I hate Odo. Thanks in part to the wonderfully consistent way he was portrayed by Auberjonois.
It is a bit creepy watching Auberjonois on Boston Legal where his character is remarably Odo-like.
It is a bit creepy watching Auberjonois on Boston Legal where his character is remarably Odo-like.
When I saw this thread, I thought: how dare someone comment on one of the acting-gods of DS9, I'll show that twerp a thing or two...
But, it's a good point.
And others also make good points, saying for instance that Odo's species was once humanoid, and also that he might've picked up the mannerisms through interaction.
And I also agree that Rene would've made a better Jadzia. Terry Farrel just wasn't good enough to play such a complex character.
But, it's a good point.
And others also make good points, saying for instance that Odo's species was once humanoid, and also that he might've picked up the mannerisms through interaction.
And I also agree that Rene would've made a better Jadzia. Terry Farrel just wasn't good enough to play such a complex character.
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While I personally think you're being just a little hard on Terry Farrell, on the basis of the episode Facets, it would have been interesting if instead of Jadzia, they had Curzon Dax as a regular character played by Rene Auberjonois!
While I personally think you're being just a little hard on Terry Farrell, on the basis of the episode Facets, it would have been interesting if instead of Jadzia, they had Curzon Dax as a regular character played by Rene Auberjonois!
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Yeah, maybe. But she just never convinced me.
I recall just one episode where I thought she was really good, the one where Worf and Jadzia are sent on a mission to collect the cardie, and she gets injured.
And I was thinking the same thing last night, Curzon was so cool played by Auberjonois. Especially his interaction with Quark. Classic.
Yeah, maybe. But she just never convinced me.
I recall just one episode where I thought she was really good, the one where Worf and Jadzia are sent on a mission to collect the cardie, and she gets injured.
And I was thinking the same thing last night, Curzon was so cool played by Auberjonois. Especially his interaction with Quark.
Classic.Terry Farrell was good at playing Jadzia, because they wrote the character for her. In the first season the character was a lot different, and she didn't play it well at all. Rene could have gotten it right, though.
I'm not hating on Terry Farrell though. Siddig had some moments early in the show that were a lot worse, and he turned out awesome too.
I'm not hating on Terry Farrell though. Siddig had some moments early in the show that were a lot worse, and he turned out awesome too.
In my humble opinion Odo is the most original alien in all Treks except VOY (I still have no time and money to buy all VOYs seasons to check that ). That means Rene Auberjonois was good as Odo for me.
). That means Rene Auberjonois was good as Odo for me.sciencefiman said:
In my humble opinion Odo is the most original alien in all Treks except VOY (I still have no time and money to buy all VOYs seasons to check that
Record VOY off SPIKE - that's what I do. I have seasons 1-2 that I picked up used for $60, but I'm not buying anymore until a price drop or more used deals. Watch 'em as time permits!
Rene rocked as Odo - magnificent talent. People don't realize he can do it all - including stage musicals!
Shimmerman made me love Quark (always hates Ferengis before) by sheer force of his talent - always shades of grey with Quark. You don't need to sell me on him, either! :thumbsup:
<Terry Farrell was good at playing Jadzia, because they wrote the character for her. In the first season the character was a lot different, and she didn't play it well at all. Rene could have gotten it right, though.>
I don't think that's true. If I remember correctly, the character was written with Famke Jannsen in mind--there was an TNG episode with Famke Jannsen ("the perfect mate") wherein her makeup looked very much like what would eventually become the characteristic Trill spots. In fact, I think Terry Farrell was cast later than everyone else on DS9, but I might have her mixed up w/Nana Visitor on that. (Whose part was initially written for Michelle Forbes.)
I don't think that's true. If I remember correctly, the character was written with Famke Jannsen in mind--there was an TNG episode with Famke Jannsen ("the perfect mate") wherein her makeup looked very much like what would eventually become the characteristic Trill spots. In fact, I think Terry Farrell was cast later than everyone else on DS9, but I might have her mixed up w/Nana Visitor on that. (Whose part was initially written for Michelle Forbes.)
She was cast last, and she wasn't any good in the first season, watch the episode "Dax" and then watch "Rules of Acquisition" and "Playing God." They basically changed her character to match her acting abilities.
And the 'new' Jadzia Dax was great. The original version could not have worked with any actor. She was bland and sterile.
"Remember, too, that Changelings evolved from humanoids." I guess I forget that. You should have told me to remember earlier.
In response to another post, I forget whose, sorry---Odo is often said to have been some kind of emotionless creature. This is because fans have emotionless-aliens-exploring-humanity on the brain, and read that into things. That was Data.
Odo is an alien. He also, coincidentally, happens to be a man who had difficulties "growing up", and ended up not having a sunny disposition and didn't integrate well into the society around him. A good thing, since the society was created or remade by Cardassians. Why integrate with that?
Many people are alienated without having to be aliens. He's one of them. He's not the slightest bit "unemotional". He's repressed. He holds it in. He's stiff and formal and uncomfortable. We probably all have family members like that. It doesn't mean they're like Vulcans.
"Remember, too, that Changelings evolved from humanoids." I guess I forget that. You should have told me to remember earlier.
In response to another post, I forget whose, sorry---Odo is often said to have been some kind of emotionless creature. This is because fans have emotionless-aliens-exploring-humanity on the brain, and read that into things. That was Data.
Odo is an alien. He also, coincidentally, happens to be a man who had difficulties "growing up", and ended up not having a sunny disposition and didn't integrate well into the society around him. A good thing, since the society was created or remade by Cardassians. Why integrate with that?
Many people are alienated without having to be aliens. He's one of them. He's not the slightest bit "unemotional". He's repressed. He holds it in. He's stiff and formal and uncomfortable. We probably all have family members like that. It doesn't mean they're like Vulcans.
i always thought he did a great job , its hard to show emotions under all that make-up and latex. but i agree also about the odo /kira pairing. esp after the betrayal that almost got rom killed. and she forgave him after a little chat in closet at dax's bachelorette's party.
I was never the biggest Odo fan to be sure, but I'd say R.A. was as good or better than the other actors who played a Changeling over the course of the series so I can't agree. And, I can't think of a more sympathetic Changeling than Odo, despite my disgust with him when he betrayed his friends.
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